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    🛰️ XO 6: dedicated thread for all your feedback!

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      darthkitty8
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      XO6 is looking great so far.

      However, there is one thing I hope there may be an option to change in the future. Currently, in the tree view, VMs are shown under whichever host they are on. This works fine for a few nodes, but quickly becomes a pain with larger clusters (I operate clusters with 8+ nodes) because I have to check each host to find the VM. Is there any possibility of having an option to switch to a view similar to what VMware has, where the hosts are all at the top of the list, and then the VMs are all below it, regardless of which host they are on? I have attached a slightly modified version of an example vCenter screenshot to show better what I mean. I think this would make it much, much easier to find VMs in large clusters. Ideally, folders and/or resource groups with VMs nested under them could also be shown here, but that would require more work. Anyway, looking forward to how XO 6 progresses.

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      • olivierlambertO Online
        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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        Hi @darthkitty8 !

        Thanks for the feedback and idea, can you create it at https://feedback.vates.tech and use the "XO 6" tag? Thank you very much!

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          DustinB @olivierlambert
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          @olivierlambert https://feedback.vates.tech/posts/49/pool-view-rather-than-host-view

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            john.c @DustinB
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            @DustinB said:

            @olivierlambert https://feedback.vates.tech/posts/49/pool-view-rather-than-host-view

            So you’re interested in having it a bit more like when using VMware vSphere while, regarding VMs, hosts and pools? That could work, but still need a hosts view for each member of the pool. In the host’s view it needs to be able to see, what VMs are running on it.

            Also needs to be compatible with https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/issues/9430. If not already synced with NetBox, the pool and hosts should be linked by UUID when synced. So in other words the structure needs to be pool is linked by UUID to host by its UUID and then the same for VMs. So the VMs are linked by UIID to the host UUID.

            matiasst created this issue in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

            open Link VMs to Host Devices via UUID in NetBox Plugin #9430

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              DustinB @john.c
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              @john.c said:

              @DustinB said:

              @olivierlambert https://feedback.vates.tech/posts/49/pool-view-rather-than-host-view

              So you’re interested in having it a bit more like when using VMware vSphere while, regarding VMs, hosts and pools? That could work, but still need a hosts view for each member of the pool. In the host’s view it needs to be able to see, what VMs are running on it.

              Also needs to be compatible with https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/issues/9430. If not already synced with NetBox, the pool and hosts should be linked by UUID when synced. So in other words the structure needs to be pool is linked by UUID to host by its UUID and then the same for VMs. So the VMs are linked by UIID to the host UUID.

              Nothing in my post would restrict the view to only seeing VMs within a specific Pool, the view should be flexible enough to shows VMs in a pool.

              As it is now, you see all VMs that are running under a given host and then pool.

              This in and of itself could become tedious to manage/dig through.

              The potential remedy here would be to show all VMs in a pool, and on the given VM show the host where it's running.

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              matiasst created this issue in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

              open Link VMs to Host Devices via UUID in NetBox Plugin #9430

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                john.c @DustinB
                last edited by john.c

                @DustinB said:

                @john.c said:

                @DustinB said:

                @olivierlambert https://feedback.vates.tech/posts/49/pool-view-rather-than-host-view

                So you’re interested in having it a bit more like when using VMware vSphere while, regarding VMs, hosts and pools? That could work, but still need a hosts view for each member of the pool. In the host’s view it needs to be able to see, what VMs are running on it.

                Also needs to be compatible with https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/issues/9430. If not already synced with NetBox, the pool and hosts should be linked by UUID when synced. So in other words the structure needs to be pool is linked by UUID to host by its UUID and then the same for VMs. So the VMs are linked by UIID to the host UUID.

                Nothing in my post would restrict the view to only seeing VMs within a specific Pool, the view should be flexible enough to shows VMs in a pool.

                As it is now, you see all VMs that are running under a given host and then pool.

                This in and of itself could become tedious to manage/dig through.

                The potential remedy here would be to show all VMs in a pool, and on the given VM show the host where it's running.

                eed2974b-314b-4e25-a36a-15d88f8899a9-image.jpeg

                Even in VMware vSphere there’s a hosts view, that shows things specific to a particular host. This includes VMs running on it, or are currently halted or suspended on it. As well as patches missing from the host, etc. Though it more roundabout to get to it under VMware vSphere.

                matiasst created this issue in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

                open Link VMs to Host Devices via UUID in NetBox Plugin #9430

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                  DustinB @john.c
                  last edited by

                  @john.c This is already viewable under each hosts in the pool.

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                    DustinB
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                    Another suggestion, collapse non-running VMs into a single group, rather than having them listed individually.

                    https://feedback.vates.tech/posts/50/collapse-non-running-vms-into-group

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                      john.c @DustinB
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                      @DustinB said:

                      @john.c This is already viewable under each hosts in the pool.

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                      Then in that case the pools based view restructure can go ahead. Was just concerned about ensuring that it’s still possible to access individual hosts.

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                        jr-m4
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                        Small discrepancy: VDIS or VDIs? Which one is it? 😉

                        Red points out where it's called VDIS.
                        Green where it is called VDIs.

                        And as a bonus feedback/question. Why is it called "A VDIS" ?(marked with yellow)

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                          Patrick
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                          missing the Health Overview dashboard. if you have 10 pools this was very usefull so I will go back to the old view for now.
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                          also restore a VM is missing only the Backup tab is visible.
                          if I click on the "eye" it still not there will this feature come in the future?

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                            benapetr @olivierlambert
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                            @olivierlambert said:

                            Hi @darthkitty8 !

                            Thanks for the feedback and idea, can you create it at https://feedback.vates.tech and use the "XO 6" tag? Thank you very much!

                            Another option would be to just mimic XenCenter design to make it more "Xen native" and have Objects view where you have separate tree node for "Hosts" and then "VMs" so you group all hosts and vms together.

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                              AlexanderK
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                              is there any manual for xo6?
                              I am trying to create a backup but i cannot find how to....

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                                skipthompson81 @AlexanderK
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                                @AlexanderK
                                xo 6 is rolling out features regularly, for many functions, you must continue to use x05. backup is one of those at this time

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                                  ph7
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                                  After the work You put in fixing
                                  https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/12040/restore-only-showing-1-vm/18

                                  It seems like VDI-size in VMs VDIS is back to showing size of snapshot instead of size of VM.

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                                    paramazo
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                                    console view is unreadable even if fullscreen was selected. It was much more usable on XO5.

                                    Iam missing a lot of configurations in XO6 which are available on XO5. New interfaces already feel weird, thats normal habbit, but iam very confused with this one.

                                    Can i make /v5 the default interface on this version?

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                                    • olivierlambertO Online
                                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                      What do you mean by "unreadable"? Can you be more specific?

                                      Also, more is coming to XO 6 progressively, we'll be on par this year. About /v5 by default, we documented it IIRC.

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                                        paramazo @olivierlambert
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                                        @olivierlambert I try to show it with some screenshots on same VM with the same screen

                                        This is XO5:
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                                        This is XO6:
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                                        can you spot the difference? it seems some kind of scaling is happening here... it looks blurred. What do you think?

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                                        • olivierlambertO Online
                                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                          Let me ping @Team-XO-Frontend

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