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    🛰️ XO 6: dedicated thread for all your feedback!

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      MajorP93 @benapetr
      last edited by MajorP93

      @benapetr Hmmm I am also using XCP-ng 8.3 (all patches installed) and latest XO from sources... On my end XO6 is working fine. Maybe it is caused by something specific to your setup/configuration... Maybe start with a fresh XO configuration and check if it then works?

      //EDIT: what is your underlying OS version and Node JS version used for building / running XO?

      //EDIT2: Also are you running XO behind a reverse proxy? If so try disabling it as I saw issues like these being caused by reverse proxy setups. These kind of issues can be investigated by using dev tools of your browser and checking network / console tab while loading XO.

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        acebmxer @benapetr
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        @benapetr

        If you are still having issues you can try the script i created to install XO from sources. I would advise not running in production, But i have been using it for a few weeks in my home lab and havent ran into many issues.

        https://github.com/acebmxer/install_xen_orchestra

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          benapetr @MajorP93
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          @MajorP93 yes it's running behind a reverse proxy (nginx) maybe that's the reason I will test it without proxy later

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            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO @benapetr
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            @benapetr Check you have websocket support enabled. That's probably it.

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              darthkitty8
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              XO6 is looking great so far.

              However, there is one thing I hope there may be an option to change in the future. Currently, in the tree view, VMs are shown under whichever host they are on. This works fine for a few nodes, but quickly becomes a pain with larger clusters (I operate clusters with 8+ nodes) because I have to check each host to find the VM. Is there any possibility of having an option to switch to a view similar to what VMware has, where the hosts are all at the top of the list, and then the VMs are all below it, regardless of which host they are on? I have attached a slightly modified version of an example vCenter screenshot to show better what I mean. I think this would make it much, much easier to find VMs in large clusters. Ideally, folders and/or resource groups with VMs nested under them could also be shown here, but that would require more work. Anyway, looking forward to how XO 6 progresses.

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                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                Hi @darthkitty8 !

                Thanks for the feedback and idea, can you create it at https://feedback.vates.tech and use the "XO 6" tag? Thank you very much!

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                  DustinB @olivierlambert
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                  @olivierlambert https://feedback.vates.tech/posts/49/pool-view-rather-than-host-view

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                    john.c @DustinB
                    last edited by john.c

                    @DustinB said:

                    @olivierlambert https://feedback.vates.tech/posts/49/pool-view-rather-than-host-view

                    So you’re interested in having it a bit more like when using VMware vSphere while, regarding VMs, hosts and pools? That could work, but still need a hosts view for each member of the pool. In the host’s view it needs to be able to see, what VMs are running on it.

                    Also needs to be compatible with https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/issues/9430. If not already synced with NetBox, the pool and hosts should be linked by UUID when synced. So in other words the structure needs to be pool is linked by UUID to host by its UUID and then the same for VMs. So the VMs are linked by UIID to the host UUID.

                    matiasst created this issue in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

                    open Link VMs to Host Devices via UUID in NetBox Plugin #9430

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                      DustinB @john.c
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                      @john.c said:

                      @DustinB said:

                      @olivierlambert https://feedback.vates.tech/posts/49/pool-view-rather-than-host-view

                      So you’re interested in having it a bit more like when using VMware vSphere while, regarding VMs, hosts and pools? That could work, but still need a hosts view for each member of the pool. In the host’s view it needs to be able to see, what VMs are running on it.

                      Also needs to be compatible with https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/issues/9430. If not already synced with NetBox, the pool and hosts should be linked by UUID when synced. So in other words the structure needs to be pool is linked by UUID to host by its UUID and then the same for VMs. So the VMs are linked by UIID to the host UUID.

                      Nothing in my post would restrict the view to only seeing VMs within a specific Pool, the view should be flexible enough to shows VMs in a pool.

                      As it is now, you see all VMs that are running under a given host and then pool.

                      This in and of itself could become tedious to manage/dig through.

                      The potential remedy here would be to show all VMs in a pool, and on the given VM show the host where it's running.

                      eed2974b-314b-4e25-a36a-15d88f8899a9-image.jpeg

                      matiasst created this issue in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

                      open Link VMs to Host Devices via UUID in NetBox Plugin #9430

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                        john.c @DustinB
                        last edited by john.c

                        @DustinB said:

                        @john.c said:

                        @DustinB said:

                        @olivierlambert https://feedback.vates.tech/posts/49/pool-view-rather-than-host-view

                        So you’re interested in having it a bit more like when using VMware vSphere while, regarding VMs, hosts and pools? That could work, but still need a hosts view for each member of the pool. In the host’s view it needs to be able to see, what VMs are running on it.

                        Also needs to be compatible with https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/issues/9430. If not already synced with NetBox, the pool and hosts should be linked by UUID when synced. So in other words the structure needs to be pool is linked by UUID to host by its UUID and then the same for VMs. So the VMs are linked by UIID to the host UUID.

                        Nothing in my post would restrict the view to only seeing VMs within a specific Pool, the view should be flexible enough to shows VMs in a pool.

                        As it is now, you see all VMs that are running under a given host and then pool.

                        This in and of itself could become tedious to manage/dig through.

                        The potential remedy here would be to show all VMs in a pool, and on the given VM show the host where it's running.

                        eed2974b-314b-4e25-a36a-15d88f8899a9-image.jpeg

                        Even in VMware vSphere there’s a hosts view, that shows things specific to a particular host. This includes VMs running on it, or are currently halted or suspended on it. As well as patches missing from the host, etc. Though it more roundabout to get to it under VMware vSphere.

                        matiasst created this issue in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

                        open Link VMs to Host Devices via UUID in NetBox Plugin #9430

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                          DustinB @john.c
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                          @john.c This is already viewable under each hosts in the pool.

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                            DustinB
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                            Another suggestion, collapse non-running VMs into a single group, rather than having them listed individually.

                            https://feedback.vates.tech/posts/50/collapse-non-running-vms-into-group

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                              john.c @DustinB
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                              @DustinB said:

                              @john.c This is already viewable under each hosts in the pool.

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                              Then in that case the pools based view restructure can go ahead. Was just concerned about ensuring that it’s still possible to access individual hosts.

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                                jr-m4
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                                Small discrepancy: VDIS or VDIs? Which one is it? 😉

                                Red points out where it's called VDIS.
                                Green where it is called VDIs.

                                And as a bonus feedback/question. Why is it called "A VDIS" ?(marked with yellow)

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                                  Patrick
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                                  missing the Health Overview dashboard. if you have 10 pools this was very usefull so I will go back to the old view for now.
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                                  also restore a VM is missing only the Backup tab is visible.
                                  if I click on the "eye" it still not there will this feature come in the future?

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                                    benapetr @olivierlambert
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                                    @olivierlambert said:

                                    Hi @darthkitty8 !

                                    Thanks for the feedback and idea, can you create it at https://feedback.vates.tech and use the "XO 6" tag? Thank you very much!

                                    Another option would be to just mimic XenCenter design to make it more "Xen native" and have Objects view where you have separate tree node for "Hosts" and then "VMs" so you group all hosts and vms together.

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                                      AlexanderK
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                                      is there any manual for xo6?
                                      I am trying to create a backup but i cannot find how to....

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                                        skipthompson81 @AlexanderK
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                                        @AlexanderK
                                        xo 6 is rolling out features regularly, for many functions, you must continue to use x05. backup is one of those at this time

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                                          ph7
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                                          After the work You put in fixing
                                          https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/12040/restore-only-showing-1-vm/18

                                          It seems like VDI-size in VMs VDIS is back to showing size of snapshot instead of size of VM.

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                                            paramazo
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                                            console view is unreadable even if fullscreen was selected. It was much more usable on XO5.

                                            Iam missing a lot of configurations in XO6 which are available on XO5. New interfaces already feel weird, thats normal habbit, but iam very confused with this one.

                                            Can i make /v5 the default interface on this version?

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