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      john.c @DustinB
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      @DustinB said:

      @john.c This is already viewable under each hosts in the pool.

      3eb9d466-59e6-423a-8733-b9655d734103-image.jpeg

      Then in that case the pools based view restructure can go ahead. Was just concerned about ensuring that it’s still possible to access individual hosts.

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        jr-m4
        last edited by jr-m4

        Small discrepancy: VDIS or VDIs? Which one is it? πŸ˜‰

        Red points out where it's called VDIS.
        Green where it is called VDIs.

        And as a bonus feedback/question. Why is it called "A VDIS" ?(marked with yellow)

        68958f81-21fb-4737-955d-bb90bd2f7b66-image.jpeg

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          Patrick
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          missing the Health Overview dashboard. if you have 10 pools this was very usefull so I will go back to the old view for now.
          fe425af1-90b3-446e-9924-57372d211eae-image.jpeg

          also restore a VM is missing only the Backup tab is visible.
          if I click on the "eye" it still not there will this feature come in the future?

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            benapetr @olivierlambert
            last edited by

            @olivierlambert said:

            Hi @darthkitty8 !

            Thanks for the feedback and idea, can you create it at https://feedback.vates.tech and use the "XO 6" tag? Thank you very much!

            Another option would be to just mimic XenCenter design to make it more "Xen native" and have Objects view where you have separate tree node for "Hosts" and then "VMs" so you group all hosts and vms together.

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              AlexanderK
              last edited by

              is there any manual for xo6?
              I am trying to create a backup but i cannot find how to....

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                skipthompson81 @AlexanderK
                last edited by

                @AlexanderK
                xo 6 is rolling out features regularly, for many functions, you must continue to use x05. backup is one of those at this time

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                  ph7
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                  After the work You put in fixing
                  https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/12040/restore-only-showing-1-vm/18

                  It seems like VDI-size in VMs VDIS is back to showing size of snapshot instead of size of VM.

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                    paramazo
                    last edited by

                    console view is unreadable even if fullscreen was selected. It was much more usable on XO5.

                    Iam missing a lot of configurations in XO6 which are available on XO5. New interfaces already feel weird, thats normal habbit, but iam very confused with this one.

                    Can i make /v5 the default interface on this version?

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                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                      olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
                      last edited by

                      What do you mean by "unreadable"? Can you be more specific?

                      Also, more is coming to XO 6 progressively, we'll be on par this year. About /v5 by default, we documented it IIRC.

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                        paramazo @olivierlambert
                        last edited by paramazo

                        @olivierlambert I try to show it with some screenshots on same VM with the same screen

                        This is XO5:
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                        This is XO6:
                        afe0fff8-4ab1-4bed-855e-e65f2b24ff92-image.jpeg

                        can you spot the difference? it seems some kind of scaling is happening here... it looks blurred. What do you think?

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                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                          olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
                          last edited by

                          Let me ping @Team-XO-Frontend

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                            jr-m4
                            last edited by

                            Sometimes "# Disk Space" for VMs reports 0 in the central pane. But the assigned space is shown in the details (right) pane.

                            This is the same under Pool and Host-level. Sometimes it is shown, but after a reload of the page, it resets back to 0.

                            Marked the examples in red.

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                              ph7
                              last edited by ph7

                              I removed 1 host from the pool and the local storage from that host didn't get purged
                              Screenshot 2026-04-21 at 23-20-09 Xen Orchestra.png

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                                ph7 @ph7
                                last edited by

                                just found out that it's the same on XO5

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                                  escape222
                                  last edited by

                                  Slow booting on Debian 13 VM created from a template

                                  I recently tried cloning a VM from a template (created from a full install of Debian 13). What was noticed was that the system takes forever to boot when the VM is created from XO-6. The issue does not happen in XO-5. The VM seems to hang at the TianoCore boot screen Hang.png.

                                  What I noticed is that when the VM is cloned with XO-6 the boot order somehow changes to Network boot as the first option

                                  BootOrder.png

                                  This does not happen (change of boot order) if the VM is cloned from XO-5 and there is no boot delay. The boot process seems to wait for more than 2 minutes before it fails network boot and then proceeds normally to boot from the Hard drive
                                  Hang2.png

                                  Thanks

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                                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                                    olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
                                    last edited by

                                    Thank you for the great feedback @escape222

                                    Likely a bug indeed πŸ™‚

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                                      Greg_E @escape222
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                                      @escape222

                                      I assume you made it UEFI? I had the same problem with XO-lite about a year ago. If I created it as bios boot it worked as expected.

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                                        escape222 @Greg_E
                                        last edited by

                                        @Greg_E Yes it is UEFI

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                                          Greg_E @escape222
                                          last edited by

                                          @escape222

                                          Maybe try again as a BIOS boot VM, but the times for BIOS boot are nearing an end, so many things have climbed on UEFI only these days that a problem like this is going to be hard to ignore.

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                                            MajorP93 @Greg_E
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                                            I noticed the same: for VMs that use UEFI the boot time is greatly increased compared to BIOS mode.

                                            I noticed that VMs that have UEFI enabled show some "installing xen timer" and "spinlock" events in kernel log:

                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: Xen: using vcpuop timer interface
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: installing Xen timer for CPU 0
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: smpboot: CPU0: AMD EPYC 7702P 64-Core Processor (family: 0x17, model: 0x31, stepping: 0x0)
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: cpu 0 spinlock event irq 52
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: Performance Events: PMU not available due to virtualization, using software events only.
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: signal: max sigframe size: 1776
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: rcu: Hierarchical SRCU implementation.
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: rcu:         Max phase no-delay instances is 1000.
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: Timer migration: 1 hierarchy levels; 8 children per group; 1 crossnode level
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: NMI watchdog: Perf NMI watchdog permanently disabled
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: smp: Bringing up secondary CPUs ...
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: installing Xen timer for CPU 1
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: smpboot: x86: Booting SMP configuration:
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: .... node  #0, CPUs:      #1
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: installing Xen timer for CPU 2
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel:  #2
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: installing Xen timer for CPU 3
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel:  #3
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: installing Xen timer for CPU 4
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel:  #4
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: installing Xen timer for CPU 5
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel:  #5
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: installing Xen timer for CPU 6
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel:  #6
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: installing Xen timer for CPU 7
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel:  #7
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: cpu 1 spinlock event irq 81
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: cpu 2 spinlock event irq 82
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: cpu 3 spinlock event irq 83
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: cpu 4 spinlock event irq 84
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: cpu 5 spinlock event irq 85
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: cpu 6 spinlock event irq 86
                                            Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: cpu 7 spinlock event irq 87
                                            

                                            Those events seem to be what is slowing down boot.
                                            Ever since I started using XCP-ng I was able to observe this behavior.
                                            Once the VM is fully booted performance seems to be normal.
                                            Maybe worth investigating at some point.

                                            Best regards

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