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    too many VDI/VHD per VM, how to get rid of unused ones

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    • olivierlambertO Online
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
      last edited by olivierlambert

      Yes, I would do that. It means all those VDIs aren't connected to any VM. So it's very likely (except if you did something on purpose) that those VDIs are useless.

      I think you get why Xen Orchestra is the de facto client for Citrix Hypervisor and XCP-ng 😉

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        robert wild @olivierlambert
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        @olivierlambert yes i can see now why XOA works really well with xen/xcp-ng

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          robert wild
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          orphaned_vms.PNG

          mmm.... its asking me for the orphaned vm snapshots if i really want to delete them

          im guessing i do?!?

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          • olivierlambertO Online
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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            There's no reason to have orphaned VM snapshots 🙂

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              robert wild
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              thanks Olivier!!!!!!

              now my VDI's, i see i have multiple VDI's for my VMs

              for example my "dataio vm"

              i have a main vm running and i have a continious replication of the dataio vm

              now can i delete any of them as i seem to be just racking up multiple VDI's of the same VM

              vdi_disks.PNG

              vdi_xen.PNG

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              • olivierlambertO Online
                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                Continue to remove all orphaned VDIs 🙂

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                  robert wild @olivierlambert
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                  @olivierlambert but I can't see any more orphaned vdis on XOA?

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                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                    In the SR view, disk tab, bottom right, magnifying glass icon, select "Orphaned VDIs".

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                      robert wild @olivierlambert
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                      @olivierlambert your amazing Olivier, so I imagine I can delete all the orphaned vdi's

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                      • olivierlambertO Online
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                        last edited by olivierlambert

                        Yes, as long as you don't have intentionally left a VDI connected to no VM whatsoever, you can remove all of them.

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                          robert wild
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                          im looking and i see no vms attached to the orphaned disks

                          orphaned_disks.PNG

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                          • olivierlambertO Online
                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                            That's by definition why are they called "orphaned" 🙂 The question is: have you decided to disconnect some VDI of some VM by yourself or they just are here because they are leftover of some failed operations?

                            I think that in your case, you can remove them all.

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                              robert wild
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                              thanks Olivier because when i change the magnifying glass to "type:!VDI-unmanaged" i see under the VMs the actual live vm name and the backup vm so i think its safe to delete all the orphaned ones

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                              • olivierlambertO Online
                                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                Yes, VDIs connected to a VM are by definition not orphaned. You don't want to remove those.

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                                  robert wild
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                                  just out of interest when i change the magnifying glass to "type:VDI-unmanaged"

                                  it lists "base copy"

                                  what are they?

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                                  • olivierlambertO Online
                                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                    They are the read only parent of a disk (when you do a snapshot, in fact it creates 3 disks: the base copy in read only, the new active disk and the snapshot).

                                    If you remove the snapshot, then a coalesce will appear, to merge the active disk within the base copy, and get back to the initial state: 1 disk only.

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                                      robert wild
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                                      so can i delete the "type:VDI-snapshot"

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                                        • olivierlambertO Online
                                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                          1. Please edit your post and use Markdown syntax for code/error blocks
                                          2. Rescan your SR and try again, at worst remove everything you can, leave it a while to coalesce and wait before trying to remove it again
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                                            robert wild
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                                            vdi.delete
                                            {
                                            "id": "1778c579-65a5-48b3-82df-9558a4f6ff7f"
                                            }
                                            {
                                            "code": "SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_1200",
                                            "params": [
                                            "",
                                            "",
                                            ""
                                            ],
                                            "task": {
                                            "uuid": "3c72bd9a-36ec-01da-b1b5-0b19468f4532",
                                            "name_label": "Async.VDI.destroy",
                                            "name_description": "",
                                            "allowed_operations": [],
                                            "current_operations": {},
                                            "created": "20200120T19:23:41Z",
                                            "finished": "20200120T19:23:50Z",
                                            "status": "failure",
                                            "resident_on": "OpaqueRef:bb0f833a-b400-4862-9d3f-07f15f34e0f8",
                                            "progress": 1,
                                            "type": "<none/>",
                                            "result": "",
                                            "error_info": [
                                            "SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_1200",
                                            "",
                                            "",
                                            ""
                                            ],
                                            "other_config": {},
                                            "subtask_of": "OpaqueRef:NULL",
                                            "subtasks": [],
                                            "backtrace": "(((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename lib/backtrace.ml)(line 210))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/storage_access.ml)(line 31))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/xapi_vdi.ml)(line 683))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/message_forwarding.ml)(line 100))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename lib/xapi-stdext-pervasives/pervasiveext.ml)(line 24))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/rbac.ml)(line 236))((process"xapi @ lon-p-xenserver01")(filename ocaml/xapi/server_helpers.ml)(line 83)))"
                                            },
                                            "message": "SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_1200(, , )",
                                            "name": "XapiError",
                                            "stack": "XapiError: SR_BACKEND_FAILURE_1200(, , )
                                            at Function.wrap (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/_XapiError.js:16:11)
                                            at _default (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/_getTaskResult.js:11:28)
                                            at Xapi._addRecordToCache (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/index.js:812:37)
                                            at events.forEach.event (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/index.js:833:13)
                                            at Array.forEach (<anonymous>)
                                            at Xapi._processEvents (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/index.js:823:11)
                                            at /xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/src/index.js:984:13
                                            at Generator.next (<anonymous>)
                                            at asyncGeneratorStep (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/dist/index.js:58:103)
                                            at _next (/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/dist/index.js:60:194)
                                            at tryCatcher (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/util.js:16:23)
                                            at Promise._settlePromiseFromHandler (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:547:31)
                                            at Promise._settlePromise (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:604:18)
                                            at Promise._settlePromise0 (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:649:10)
                                            at Promise._settlePromises (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/promise.js:729:18)
                                            at _drainQueueStep (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:93:12)
                                            at _drainQueue (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:86:9)
                                            at Async._drainQueues (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:102:5)
                                            at Immediate.Async.drainQueues (/xen-orchestra/node_modules/bluebird/js/release/async.js:15:14)
                                            at runCallback (timers.js:810:20)
                                            at tryOnImmediate (timers.js:768:5)
                                            at processImmediate [as _immediateCallback] (timers.js:745:5)"
                                            }
                                            
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