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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
      last edited by

      It's hard to tell, you have the infrastructure "in front of you", while I have 0 knowledge here.

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        high-voltages
        last edited by

        that is correct, but there are no errors in the storage system. the raid is built with two Raid 10 arrays SAS disks. the performance should be there.

        a better question should be, how to figure it out driver issues?
        The issue with the CPU looks strange and i don´t know how to find out why the cpu data could be not show with xenpm

        I think I will make some test with a linux vm look how the performance is there.

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
          last edited by

          You must provide more technical details on the entire system/setup, including the storage & network.

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            Affonso @olivierlambert
            last edited by

            This also happens on our servers.

            This is from a single node homelab running on a Dell PowerEdge r620

            # xenpm get-cpufreq-para
            [CPU0] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU1] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU2] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU3] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU4] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU5] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU6] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU7] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU8] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU9] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU10] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU11] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU12] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU13] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU14] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU15] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU16] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU17] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU18] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU19] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU20] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU21] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU22] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU23] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU24] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU25] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU26] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU27] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU28] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU29] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU30] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU31] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU32] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU33] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU34] failed to get cpufreq parameter
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            [CPU38] failed to get cpufreq parameter
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            [CPU40] failed to get cpufreq parameter
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            [CPU44] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU45] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU46] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            [CPU47] failed to get cpufreq parameter
            
            # cat /proc/cpuinfo | egrep -i mhz
            cpu MHz		: 2700.059
            cpu MHz		: 2700.059
            cpu MHz		: 2700.059
            cpu MHz		: 2700.059
            cpu MHz		: 2700.059
            cpu MHz		: 2700.059
            cpu MHz		: 2700.059
            cpu MHz		: 2700.059
            cpu MHz		: 2700.059
            cpu MHz		: 2700.059
            cpu MHz		: 2700.059
            cpu MHz		: 2700.059
            cpu MHz		: 2700.059
            cpu MHz		: 2700.059
            cpu MHz		: 2700.059
            cpu MHz		: 2700.059
            
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              high-voltages @olivierlambert
              last edited by olivierlambert

              @olivierlambert
              Ok no proplem.

              Servertype: HP ProLiant DL380p Gen8
              CPU 2 x Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 0 @ 2.70GHz

              RAM 128GB DDR3 1333Mhz ECC RAM

              Storage 8x 900GB SAS 10K Disks at P420i Raid Controller
              Configured as:
              1x 1,8 TB RAID 1+0 (4 Disks)
              1x 1,8 TB RAID 1+0 (4 Disks)

              [11:55 localhost ~]# pvs
                PV         VG                                                 Fmt  Attr PSize  PFree  
                /dev/sda3  VG_XenStorage-76d8320a-18bd-1b29-4040-caf0361ce575 lvm2 a--  <1.60t 777.70g
                /dev/sdb   VG_XenStorage-76d8320a-18bd-1b29-4040-caf0361ce575 lvm2 a--  <1.64t  <1.64t
              

              NIC 1xHP Ethernet 1Gb 4-port 331FLR Adapter (4x1Gbit/s)

              • Nic0 = Management
              • Nic1 + Nic2 = Bond for VM
              • Nic3 = Storage Network for Backup
                Actual active VMs 1x Win10 4x vCPU 8GB RAM
                1x Win10 4x vCPU 8GB RAM
                1x Win10 4x vCPU 16GB RAM
                1x Win10 4x vCPU 8GB RAM (temporary fresh installed for testing)
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                high-voltages @Affonso
                last edited by

                @Affonso thanks for this...

                doese the cpu boost the frequency on load or is the cpu permanetly on 2,7ghz

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                  last edited by

                  What's the load average on your Dom0? What's the current resources allocated to it? (vCPUs and memory)? Might be interesting to check also the load on the SR (eg with iostat -x)

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                    Affonso @high-voltages
                    last edited by

                    @high-voltages I believe turbo boost takes it up to 3.3GHz. The 2.7 is reduced workload

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                    • bleaderB Offline
                      bleader Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                      last edited by

                      In guests (even privileded guest like dom0), /proc/cpuinfo reports only what xen exposes to it, it generally is shown as fixed value.

                      You can only get some more insight using xenpm when it actually shows something. I found it commonly having parts working or not depending on the CPU. On a xeon here, I get the same as you with get-cpufreq-para but you can have a look at get-cpufreq-average which is generally working, here you can see the frequency moving, on an idle machine it should be lower, and get higher with load.

                      Hope this helps.

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                        high-voltages
                        last edited by

                        Thanks for the Feedback @ all

                        I have tested some commands from above and discovered something

                        a good working host system:

                        iostat -x
                        Linux 4.19.0+1 (xcpngautewe)    02/27/2024      _x86_64_        (8 CPU)
                        
                        avg-cpu:  %user   %nice %system %iowait  %steal   %idle
                                   0.18    0.00    0.34    0.00    0.07   99.41
                        
                        Device:         rrqm/s   wrqm/s     r/s     w/s    rkB/s    wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz   await r_await w_await  svctm  %util
                        nvme0n1           0.04     0.08    2.02    2.50   135.07   202.56   149.24     0.00    0.30    0.27    0.32   0.21   0.10
                        sda               0.08     0.81    2.29    3.26   126.80   161.85   104.05     0.00    0.57    0.69    0.48   0.29   0.16
                        dm-0              0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.47     0.00   244.40     0.00    0.81    0.82    0.00   0.81   0.00
                        dm-1              0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.33     0.00   215.58     0.00    0.86    0.91    0.04   0.86   0.00
                        dm-2              0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    21.18     0.00    0.19    0.16    0.23   0.19   0.00
                        dm-3              0.00     0.00    0.21    0.21    12.58    11.83   117.71     0.00    0.71    0.97    0.46   0.33   0.01
                        tda               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00    0.55    0.55    0.00   0.15   0.00
                        tdb               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00    0.55    0.55    0.00   0.15   0.00
                        
                        

                        in comparison to the slow host system:

                        iostat -x
                        Linux 4.19.0+1 (localhost.localdomain)  02/27/2024      _x86_64_        (16 CPU)
                        
                        avg-cpu:  %user   %nice %system %iowait  %steal   %idle
                                   0.29    0.00    0.53    0.02    0.03   99.13
                        
                        Device:         rrqm/s   wrqm/s     r/s     w/s    rkB/s    wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz   await r_await w_await  svctm  %util
                        sda               0.14     0.91    6.54    7.67   308.70   284.24    83.43     0.10    7.15    3.08   10.62   2.96   4.21
                        sdb               0.00     0.00    0.01    0.00     1.33     0.00   254.01     0.00    1.61    1.61    7.25   1.60   0.00
                        dm-0              0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.54     0.00   253.31     0.00    1.78    1.73   34.50   1.76   0.00
                        dm-5              0.00     0.00    0.20    0.17    20.11     2.27   119.98     0.00    4.71    0.91    9.28   2.41   0.09
                        tdc               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.04     0.00    81.29     0.00   27.58   27.58    0.00   7.40   0.00
                        sdc               0.00     0.00    0.01    0.00     0.53     0.00   126.86     0.00    4.08    4.08    0.00   2.24   0.00
                        dm-1              0.00     0.00    1.26    1.76    49.67    39.38    59.01     0.02    5.22    2.67    7.05   4.00   1.21
                        dm-2              0.00     0.00    0.12    0.14    21.73    24.61   345.21     0.00    9.35    4.45   13.56   3.18   0.09
                        dm-3              0.00     0.00    0.11    0.00     2.20     0.00    41.97     0.00    0.97    0.97    0.00   0.84   0.01
                        dm-4              0.00     0.00    0.27    0.00    12.30     0.00    90.10     0.00    3.15    3.15    0.00   2.56   0.07
                        tda               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00    2.42    2.42    0.00   1.28   0.00
                        tdb               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00    0.60    0.60    0.00   0.23   0.00
                        dm-6              0.00     0.00    0.11    0.10     5.00     4.04    87.11     0.00    6.31    2.74   10.09   3.63   0.08
                        tdd               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00    0.53    0.53    0.00   0.38   0.00
                        dm-7              0.00     0.00    0.04    0.00     1.96     0.04    88.39     0.00    4.69    4.02   15.47   3.11   0.01
                        tde               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00    0.57    0.57    0.00   0.38   0.00
                        dm-8              0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    45.15     0.00   11.98    7.87   20.20  10.80   0.00
                        dm-9              0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    38.85     0.00   12.60    6.04   23.95  11.96   0.00
                        dm-10             0.00     0.00    0.07    0.04     1.97     1.26    58.93     0.00   10.88    7.96   15.34   2.78   0.03
                        dm-11             0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    28.84     0.00   12.16   12.16    0.00   7.12   0.00
                        dm-12             0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    41.06     0.00   10.25   10.25    0.00   6.90   0.00
                        dm-13             0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    54.52     0.00    5.10    5.10    0.00   5.02   0.00
                        dm-14             0.00     0.00    0.04    0.00     1.36     0.00    67.46     0.00    4.38    4.38    0.00   2.27   0.01
                        dm-15             0.00     0.00    0.01    0.00     0.12     0.00    48.19     0.00    7.59    7.59    0.00   6.14   0.00
                        tdf               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00   48.68   48.68    0.00   7.17   0.00
                        tdg               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00   30.45   30.45    0.00   4.98   0.00
                        tdh               0.00     0.00    0.00    0.00     0.00     0.00    39.09     0.00    1.45    1.45    0.00   0.60   0.00
                        

                        the columns with the wait timings are much higher than the from the fast host
                        that’s very strange from my point of view.

                        further the CPU stat does not shows correct values because the fast host was at the time of the command under heavy load with about 80%.

                        on the slow was some load but there the CPU is much stronger

                        @bleader: the comand "get-cpufreq-average" gives no output at all.

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                          Affonso @high-voltages
                          last edited by Affonso

                          @high-voltages so nothing there hints you to a problem with the drive SDA on the slow "host"?

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                            bleader Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @high-voltages
                            last edited by

                            @high-voltages you also can try xenpm start 10 to gather info for 10s and it will print a sumarry at the end, in my case it had each core average frequency, not sure you'll get it too, but you can give it a shot.

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                              flakpyro @bleader
                              last edited by flakpyro

                              @bleader I am running into the same issue on a pair of Lenovo SR630 V4s with Intel Xeon 6530P CPUs

                              [08:23 xcpng-dr-2 ~]# xenpm get-cpufreq-para
                              [CPU0] failed to get cpufreq parameter
                              

                              Playing with different workload profiles in the bios but so far the server seems to pretty aggressively clock itself down even while CPU intensive tasks like backups are running. I am of course not able to run something like xenpm set-scaling-governor performance either.

                              EDIT: The solution here is to get "Power/Performance Bias:" to OS Controlled in the servers BIOS. This restores functionality.

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                                bleader Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @flakpyro
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                                @flakpyro oh, good to know, thanks for sharing this!

                                @poddingue this might be worth some investigation to document, but likely would need to gather similar settings for a set of vendors to make it relevant.

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                                  Pilow @flakpyro
                                  last edited by

                                  @flakpyro said:

                                  EDIT: The solution here is to get "Power/Performance Bias:" to OS Controlled in the servers BIOS. This restores functionality.

                                  hey nice !
                                  I did the modification on a slave server and I now have all informations (previously FAILED)
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                                  it's an HPE DL380 Gen 11
                                  modified in the iLO web ui, but then needed to reboot host

                                  was previously on DYNAMIC POWER SAVINGS
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                                    poddingue Vates 🪐 @Pilow
                                    last edited by

                                    On a Lenovo SR630 V4 it took Power/Performance Bias set to OS Controlled, and on an HPE DL380 Gen 11 it was the iLO Power Regulator moved off Dynamic Power Savings to OS Control Mode, with a host reboot.
                                    Both then returned real values from xenpm get-cpufreq-para instead of the failure line.
                                    @bleader is right that two vendors is not enough to document, so if your host works, could you post the vendor, the exact setting name, where it lives, and whether you needed a reboot? Dell, Supermicro and anything AMD are the obvious gaps.
                                    I don't know whether the firmware is withholding p-state control outright or just not publishing the ACPI objects Xen looks for, so I would rather collect settings than write up a mechanism I can't back.

                                    Thanks! 🙏

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