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    Updated XOA with kernel >5.3 to support nconnect nfs option

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    • olivierlambertO Online
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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      That's a question for @florent

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      • florentF Offline
        florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Forza
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        On the read side :

        • the legacy mode : xapi build an expor from the vhd chain
        • NBD : we read individual block on the storage repository

        On the write Side :

        • the default file mode : we write 1 big file per disk
        • block mode : we write a compressed block per 2MB data

        We don't have a lot of room on the legacy mode. The NBD + block gives us more freedom, and , instinctively , should gain more from nconnect, since we will read and write multiple small blocks in parallel

        What mode are you using ?

        @Forza said in Updated XOA with kernel >5.3 to support nconnect nfs option:

        @olivierlambert

        I did a 3 x backup of a single VM hosted on an SSD drive on the same host as XOA is running, which is also pool master.

        This is with nconnect=1:
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        This is with nconnect=16:
        1885cf86-af94-4383-ba56-10d458a7009e-image.png

        The transfer speed according to XOA is slightly less, but looking at the bandwidth graph, it looks like the LACP bonded network on the storage server is reaching a higher max throughput.

        I will test some more with incremental backups and see if there's a difference with them.

        If we ignore the nconnect for a second, and just look at the graphs, it seems we have a lot of possibilities to improve the backup performance if we could make the transfer more even. What is causing this type of pattern? I do not believe any coalesce was happening during this test.

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          Forza @florent
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          @florent hi, for the full backup test above, I used normal mode with zstd enabled. There were no snapshots of the source VM and it was stored on local ssd storage on the pool master.

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            acomav
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            Just replying to thank you for pointing this out. I have been having very poor backup speeds for over a month and this sorted it out.
            I have only used nconnect=4 and 6 for my NFS shares.

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            • olivierlambertO Online
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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              Hi @acomav

              Can you give more details on your setup and the result before/after? We might use this to update our XO guide with the new values 🙂

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                acomav @olivierlambert
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                @olivierlambert Hi Olivier. I'll see what I can do. I've spent the weekend cleaning up my backups and catching up on mirror transfers. Once completed, I'll do a few custom backups at various nconnect values.

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                  florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Forza
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                  @Forza said in Updated XOA with kernel >5.3 to support nconnect nfs option:

                  @florent hi, for the full backup test above, I used normal mode with zstd enabled. There were no snapshots of the source VM and it was stored on local ssd storage on the pool master.

                  can you test a backup on an empty remote with block mode ?

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                    manilx @florent
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                    @florent Did a test on my 8.3 homelab.
                    Using XO on a Debian 12 VM.

                    2 full (delta) backups using "nconnect=6" of all my 10 VM's

                    With block defined at remote:
                    ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 10.38.11.png
                    ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 10.52.12.png

                    without block (my normal mode):
                    ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 10.56.04.png
                    ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 10.51.57.png

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                    • olivierlambertO Online
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                      I'm not sure to get it with your graph. Can you write down the average values for each scenario?

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                        manilx @olivierlambert
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                        @olivierlambert

                        with block: 100-150 MB/s approx
                        without: 200-300 MB/s

                        Values from observed NAS traffic.

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                          Forza @manilx
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                          @manilx Do you mean block as NBD mode?

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                            manilx @Forza
                            last edited by manilx

                            @Forza Did another test:

                            A: Remote as nfs share with "Store backup as multiple data blocks"
                            B: same but without multiple data blocks

                            1st backup to A,"Backup"
                            ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 13.45.47.png
                            2nd backup to B, "Backup"
                            ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 13.45.57.png
                            3rd backup to A, "Backup"
                            ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 13.46.04.png
                            4th backup to B, "Delta Backup"
                            ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 13.46.10.png

                            ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 13.44.27.png

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                              manilx @manilx
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                              @manilx This was just one VM. Did not use NBD (forgot to turn on)

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                              • olivierlambertO Online
                                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                I'm a bit confused, you are comparing block based vs VHD, but did you also change the nconnect option between run or kept it to a specific number? (in case, which one)

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                                  manilx @olivierlambert
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                                  @olivierlambert allbackups done with nfs option "nconnect=6"

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                                    manilx @manilx
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                                    @manilx 2 more and yes seems to be confusing and just to round it up.

                                    Same VM as above

                                    Delta (full) backup using NBD without and with "nconnect=6" in the remote setting:

                                    ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 14.27.19.png

                                    with nconnect=6
                                    ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 14.28.57.png

                                    nconnect=6 doesn't seem to do a lot.

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