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    Updated XOA with kernel >5.3 to support nconnect nfs option

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    • florentF Offline
      florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Forza
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      On the read side :

      • the legacy mode : xapi build an expor from the vhd chain
      • NBD : we read individual block on the storage repository

      On the write Side :

      • the default file mode : we write 1 big file per disk
      • block mode : we write a compressed block per 2MB data

      We don't have a lot of room on the legacy mode. The NBD + block gives us more freedom, and , instinctively , should gain more from nconnect, since we will read and write multiple small blocks in parallel

      What mode are you using ?

      @Forza said in Updated XOA with kernel >5.3 to support nconnect nfs option:

      @olivierlambert

      I did a 3 x backup of a single VM hosted on an SSD drive on the same host as XOA is running, which is also pool master.

      This is with nconnect=1:
      a46273be-551b-443e-a3cc-4a15a11e1341-image.png

      This is with nconnect=16:
      1885cf86-af94-4383-ba56-10d458a7009e-image.png

      The transfer speed according to XOA is slightly less, but looking at the bandwidth graph, it looks like the LACP bonded network on the storage server is reaching a higher max throughput.

      I will test some more with incremental backups and see if there's a difference with them.

      If we ignore the nconnect for a second, and just look at the graphs, it seems we have a lot of possibilities to improve the backup performance if we could make the transfer more even. What is causing this type of pattern? I do not believe any coalesce was happening during this test.

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      • ForzaF Offline
        Forza @florent
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        @florent hi, for the full backup test above, I used normal mode with zstd enabled. There were no snapshots of the source VM and it was stored on local ssd storage on the pool master.

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          acomav
          last edited by

          Just replying to thank you for pointing this out. I have been having very poor backup speeds for over a month and this sorted it out.
          I have only used nconnect=4 and 6 for my NFS shares.

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          • olivierlambertO Offline
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
            last edited by

            Hi @acomav

            Can you give more details on your setup and the result before/after? We might use this to update our XO guide with the new values 🙂

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              acomav @olivierlambert
              last edited by

              @olivierlambert Hi Olivier. I'll see what I can do. I've spent the weekend cleaning up my backups and catching up on mirror transfers. Once completed, I'll do a few custom backups at various nconnect values.

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              • florentF Offline
                florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Forza
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                @Forza said in Updated XOA with kernel >5.3 to support nconnect nfs option:

                @florent hi, for the full backup test above, I used normal mode with zstd enabled. There were no snapshots of the source VM and it was stored on local ssd storage on the pool master.

                can you test a backup on an empty remote with block mode ?

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                  manilx @florent
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                  @florent Did a test on my 8.3 homelab.
                  Using XO on a Debian 12 VM.

                  2 full (delta) backups using "nconnect=6" of all my 10 VM's

                  With block defined at remote:
                  ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 10.38.11.png
                  ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 10.52.12.png

                  without block (my normal mode):
                  ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 10.56.04.png
                  ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 10.51.57.png

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                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                    last edited by

                    I'm not sure to get it with your graph. Can you write down the average values for each scenario?

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                      manilx @olivierlambert
                      last edited by

                      @olivierlambert

                      with block: 100-150 MB/s approx
                      without: 200-300 MB/s

                      Values from observed NAS traffic.

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                      • ForzaF Offline
                        Forza @manilx
                        last edited by

                        @manilx Do you mean block as NBD mode?

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                          manilx @Forza
                          last edited by manilx

                          @Forza Did another test:

                          A: Remote as nfs share with "Store backup as multiple data blocks"
                          B: same but without multiple data blocks

                          1st backup to A,"Backup"
                          ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 13.45.47.png
                          2nd backup to B, "Backup"
                          ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 13.45.57.png
                          3rd backup to A, "Backup"
                          ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 13.46.04.png
                          4th backup to B, "Delta Backup"
                          ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 13.46.10.png

                          ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 13.44.27.png

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                            manilx @manilx
                            last edited by

                            @manilx This was just one VM. Did not use NBD (forgot to turn on)

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                            • olivierlambertO Offline
                              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                              last edited by

                              I'm a bit confused, you are comparing block based vs VHD, but did you also change the nconnect option between run or kept it to a specific number? (in case, which one)

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                                manilx @olivierlambert
                                last edited by

                                @olivierlambert allbackups done with nfs option "nconnect=6"

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                                  manilx @manilx
                                  last edited by

                                  @manilx 2 more and yes seems to be confusing and just to round it up.

                                  Same VM as above

                                  Delta (full) backup using NBD without and with "nconnect=6" in the remote setting:

                                  ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 14.27.19.png

                                  with nconnect=6
                                  ScreenShot 2024-04-29 at 14.28.57.png

                                  nconnect=6 doesn't seem to do a lot.

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