I appreciate you trying to educate me. However, we're going in circles... Its ok, I get it. The end result is:
No, I get that... and thats the silly part. All XO needs to do is set the flag, and it has been clear from the moment you had me print the objects.
It is super clear to me... the XO Snapshot is different than the Center Snapshot, only because of a single flag that XO is not setting to be true.
That difference, is enough to make them behave differently. They are not the same, no matter how tiny that difference may be.
I am using XCP-ng because I believe in your vision as opposed to your competitors. There are other options, and yet I like what you've done with XO/A and XCP-ng. And that's why I am writing here, whereas I have never participated in a feature/bug discussion with Citrix.
If earn a Euro in France, I expect that Euro to behave the same anywhere else that Euro's are accepted. I didn't earn a French Euro, only valid in places that accept French Euros.
The snapshot I created in XO, is my earned Euro. Except that I didn't realize it was an XO Snapshot, different from a Center snapshot. Why that is I leave to you, but it is undeniable that they are not created equal, be it a dumb concept or not.
Still, there is no need to continue this, as the facts are already in the thread, from both perspectives. I was just trying to help, and I am learning more than I ever expected.
It is doing that because upstream does that.
A true snapshot allows me to create a VM from it. It has done so in XenCenter for as long as I can remember, and XCP-ng Center has continued that.
And yes, this makes me very weary of using XO, and that I will not have a choice in the future but XO.
But, I will leave now and you can decide how much it is ok to diverge from upstream.
Because they are not true snapshots, as they have been defined in Center. They do not behave the same, then they are not the same. Yet they are both snapshots... What else is called the same in XO and Center but are actually not the same?
I understand your point, but my point is just as valid: I have just learned, for example, I cannot trust XO snapshots. And what problems might I encounter with VMs created in XO today, when I try to manage them in Center, months from now?
Your response worries me. How many other features in Center, replicated in XO, are actually not the same feature? As a user, I trust that a snapshot in *Center or XO behave identically across both. They are both supposed to be using the same API. Why are they different? Over time, it would lead to distrust of XO.
I have just learned, for example, I cannot trust XO snapshots. And what problems might I encounter with VMs created in XO today, when I try to manage them in Center, months from now?
Said another way, if XO's snapshots are generated identically to Center's snapshots, then the flag is the only difference. The flag would be the only fix needed.
I would surmise, that since Center is behaving as it has for as long as I can remember, the fix should be applied to XO.
XO should set the template flag on a snapshot, so XenCenter and XCP-ng Center both behave as expected. The two flags I imagine are used by XenCenter and XCP-ng to build lists in the relevant dialogs that require ONLY templates, or templates and snapshots of a given VM. In this case, the dialog looks to show is-a-template (true) and is-a-snap-shot (true) and is it for the selected VM.
That said, I don't know enough about the implications. It may just be a flag, or there is something much deeper going on.
Said another way, if XO's snapshots are generated identically to Center's snapshots, then the flag is the only difference. The flag would be the only fix needed.
Also worth noting is that Center isn't adding the name-description string, whereas XOA is.
No... XOA is defaulting to the name-description (as expected.) and Center is asking for one, and I left it blank... No issue here.
@Danp said in XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released:
@hvilches said in XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released:
is-a-template ( RW): true
Looks like this is the culprit...
You beat me to it.
I am learning so much... thank you.
The issue probably here, the flags:
uuid ( RO) : 13a6127c-59ab-1da2-1f2c-50fae29b5775
name-label ( RW): Snap with Center
name-description ( RW):
user-version ( RW): 1
is-a-template ( RW): true
is-default-template ( RW): false
is-a-snapshot ( RO): true
uuid ( RO) : 05847d68-ae1f-c06b-c05f-aeff2ca5c6fe
name-label ( RW): Snap with XOA
name-description ( RW): Had to change to HVM and remove "console=hvc0" from kernel line
user-version ( RW): 1
is-a-template ( RW): false
is-default-template ( RW): false
is-a-snapshot ( RO): true
@olivierlambert
Thank you...
This is the snap with Center
xe vm-param-list uuid=13a6127c-59ab-1da2-1f2c-50fae29b5775
uuid ( RO) : 13a6127c-59ab-1da2-1f2c-50fae29b5775
name-label ( RW): Snap with Center
name-description ( RW):
user-version ( RW): 1
is-a-template ( RW): true
is-default-template ( RW): false
is-a-snapshot ( RO): true
snapshot-of ( RO): ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713
snapshots ( RO):
snapshot-time ( RO): 20200401T20:09:50Z
snapshot-info ( RO): disk-snapshot-type: crash_consistent; power-state-at-snapshot: Running
parent ( RO): 6fe18ed9-833b-e157-8e7d-cd90e42c0787
children ( RO): ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713
is-control-domain ( RO): false
power-state ( RO): halted
memory-actual ( RO): 805302272
memory-target ( RO): 0
memory-overhead ( RO): 10485760
memory-static-max ( RW): 805306368
memory-dynamic-max ( RW): 805306368
memory-dynamic-min ( RW): 536870912
memory-static-min ( RW): 536870912
suspend-VDI-uuid ( RW): <not in database>
suspend-SR-uuid ( RW): <not in database>
VCPUs-params (MRW): weight: 256
VCPUs-max ( RW): 2
VCPUs-at-startup ( RW): 2
actions-after-shutdown ( RW): Destroy
actions-after-reboot ( RW): Restart
actions-after-crash ( RW): Restart
console-uuids (SRO):
hvm ( RO): true
platform (MRW): timeoffset: 0; viridian: false; device-model: qemu-upstream-compat; nx: true; acpi: 1; apic: true; pae: true; cores-per-socket: 1
allowed-operations (SRO): destroy; export; revert; clone; copy
current-operations (SRO):
blocked-operations (MRW):
allowed-VBD-devices (SRO): 1; 2; 4; 5; 6; 7; 8; 9; 10; 11; 12; 13; 14; 15; 16; 17; 18; 19; 20; 21; 22; 23; 24; 25; 26; 27; 28; 29; 30; 31; 32; 33; 34; 35; 36; 37; 38; 39; 40; 41; 42; 43; 44; 45; 46; 47; 48; 49; 50; 51; 52; 53; 54; 55; 56; 57; 58; 59; 60; 61; 62; 63; 64; 65; 66; 67; 68; 69; 70; 71; 72; 73; 74; 75; 76; 77; 78; 79; 80; 81; 82; 83; 84; 85; 86; 87; 88; 89; 90; 91; 92; 93; 94; 95; 96; 97; 98; 99; 100; 101; 102; 103; 104; 105; 106; 107; 108; 109; 110; 111; 112; 113; 114; 115; 116; 117; 118; 119; 120; 121; 122; 123; 124; 125; 126; 127; 128; 129; 130; 131; 132; 133; 134; 135; 136; 137; 138; 139; 140; 141; 142; 143; 144; 145; 146; 147; 148; 149; 150; 151; 152; 153; 154; 155; 156; 157; 158; 159; 160; 161; 162; 163; 164; 165; 166; 167; 168; 169; 170; 171; 172; 173; 174; 175; 176; 177; 178; 179; 180; 181; 182; 183; 184; 185; 186; 187; 188; 189; 190; 191; 192; 193; 194; 195; 196; 197; 198; 199; 200; 201; 202; 203; 204; 205; 206; 207; 208; 209; 210; 211; 212; 213; 214; 215; 216; 217; 218; 219; 220; 221; 222; 223; 224; 225; 226; 227; 228; 229; 230; 231; 232; 233; 234; 235; 236; 237; 238; 239; 240; 241; 242; 243; 244; 245; 246; 247; 248; 249; 250; 251; 252; 253; 254
allowed-VIF-devices (SRO): 2; 3; 4; 5; 6
possible-hosts ( RO): 9f4998bb-a8ec-411d-8f8a-37aaa624731f
domain-type ( RW): hvm
current-domain-type ( RO): hvm
HVM-boot-policy ( RW): BIOS Order
HVM-boot-params (MRW): order: cdn
HVM-shadow-multiplier ( RW): 1.000
PV-kernel ( RW):
PV-ramdisk ( RW):
PV-args ( RW):
PV-legacy-args ( RW):
PV-bootloader ( RW): pygrub
PV-bootloader-args ( RW):
last-boot-CPU-flags ( RO): vendor: AuthenticAMD; features: 178bfbff-f6f83203-2fd3fbff-040005f7-0000000f-219c01a9-00400004-00000000-00001005-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
last-boot-record ( RO): '('struct' ('uuid' 'ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713') ('allowed_operations' ('array' 'changing_dynamic_range' 'changing_shadow_memory' 'changing_static_range' 'make_into_template' 'migrate_send' 'destroy' 'export' 'start_on' 'start' 'clone' 'copy' 'snapshot')) ('current_operations' ('struct')) ('power_state' 'Halted') ('name_label' 'Ansible') ('name_description' '') ('user_version' '1') ('is_a_template' ('boolean' '0')) ('suspend_VDI' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('resident_on' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('affinity' 'OpaqueRef:c1cb9672-f979-9187-fdfb-b8dac743f0c5') ('memory_overhead' '9437184') ('memory_target' '805306368') ('memory_static_max' '805306368') ('memory_dynamic_max' '805306368') ('memory_dynamic_min' '536870912') ('memory_static_min' '536870912') ('VCPUs_params' ('struct')) ('VCPUs_max' '2') ('VCPUs_at_startup' '2') ('actions_after_shutdown' 'destroy') ('actions_after_reboot' 'restart') ('actions_after_crash' 'restart') ('consoles' ('array')) ('VIFs' ('array' 'OpaqueRef:0f9aa2b3-e016-829d-2aaf-abf91948db87' 'OpaqueRef:e9f78326-81e2-d910-ee10-7b3e10269b51')) ('VBDs' ('array' 'OpaqueRef:df50dc48-1074-a2e6-00cf-cd67e7fa0e0b' 'OpaqueRef:d685ebf9-e289-7ce5-d053-368f5c448042')) ('crash_dumps' ('array')) ('VTPMs' ('array')) ('PV_bootloader' 'pygrub') ('PV_kernel' '') ('PV_ramdisk' '') ('PV_args' 'graphical utf8 vnc') ('PV_bootloader_args' '') ('PV_legacy_args' '') ('HVM_boot_policy' '') ('HVM_boot_params' ('struct')) ('HVM_shadow_multiplier' ('double' '1')) ('platform' ('struct' ('nx' 'true') ('acpi' '1') ('apic' 'true') ('pae' 'true') ('viridian' 'true') ('cores-per-socket' '1'))) ('PCI_bus' '') ('other_config' ('struct' ('import_task' 'OpaqueRef:8a335f29-8caa-0a29-cc3f-bf1a0770bfc8') ('vgpu_pci' '') ('instant' 'true') ('base_template_name' 'CentOS 6 (64-bit)') ('install-repository' 'cdrom') ('linux_template' 'true') ('mac_seed' '8f5c7676-803e-bc1a-1179-a03f3d1c4dba') ('rhel6' 'true') ('install-methods' 'cdrom,nfs,http,ftp'))) ('domid' '-1') ('domarch' '') ('last_boot_CPU_flags' ('struct' ('vendor' 'GenuineIntel') ('features' '0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20000800'))) ('is_control_domain' ('boolean' '0')) ('metrics' 'OpaqueRef:5f279975-1592-941f-e9a7-1147bcd19969') ('guest_metrics' 'OpaqueRef:47854fb7-fc77-7d61-73ef-20db6ecf857d') ('last_booted_record' '') ('recommendations' '<restrictions><restriction field=\"memory-static-max\" max=\"137438953472\" /><restriction field=\"vcpus-max\" max=\"16\" /><restriction property=\"number-of-vbds\" max=\"7\" /><restriction property=\"number-of-vifs\" max=\"7\" /></restrictions>') ('xenstore_data' ('struct' ('vm-data' ''))) ('ha_always_run' ('boolean' '0')) ('ha_restart_priority' '') ('is_a_snapshot' ('boolean' '0')) ('snapshot_of' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('snapshots' ('array')) ('snapshot_time' ('dateTime.iso8601' '19700101T00:00:00Z')) ('transportable_snapshot_id' '') ('blobs' ('struct')) ('tags' ('array')) ('blocked_operations' ('struct')) ('snapshot_info' ('struct')) ('snapshot_metadata' '') ('parent' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('children' ('array')) ('bios_strings' ('struct')) ('protection_policy' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('is_snapshot_from_vmpp' ('boolean' '0')) ('appliance' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('start_delay' '0') ('shutdown_delay' '0') ('order' '0') ('VGPUs' ('array')) ('attached_PCIs' ('array')) ('suspend_SR' 'OpaqueRef:9d96d61b-c00a-1e28-24e1-dc808080d989') ('version' '0') ('generation_id' '') ('hardware_platform_version' '0') ('has_vendor_device' ('boolean' '0')) ('requires_reboot' ('boolean' '0')) ('reference_label' ''))'
resident-on ( RO): <not in database>
affinity ( RW): <not in database>
other-config (MRW): import_task: OpaqueRef:7cad0252-3d5a-48f9-bade-d29eddb43e2f; vgpu_pci: ; instant: true; base_template_name: CentOS 6 (64-bit); install-repository: cdrom; linux_template: true; mac_seed: 8f5c7676-803e-bc1a-1179-a03f3d1c4dba; rhel6: true; install-methods: cdrom,nfs,http,ftp; auto_poweron: true
dom-id ( RO): -1
recommendations ( RO): <restrictions><restriction field="memory-static-max" max="137438953472" /><restriction field="vcpus-max" max="16" /><restriction property="number-of-vbds" max="7" /><restriction property="number-of-vifs" max="7" /></restrictions>
xenstore-data (MRW): vm-data: ; vm-data/mmio-hole-size: 268435456
ha-always-run ( RW) [DEPRECATED]: false
ha-restart-priority ( RW):
blobs ( RO):
start-time ( RO): 20200401T19:18:08Z
install-time ( RO): 19700101T00:00:00Z
VCPUs-number ( RO): 2
VCPUs-utilisation (MRO):
os-version (MRO): name: CentOS release 6.10 (Final); uname: 2.6.32-754.28.1.el6.x86_64; distro: centos; major: 6; minor: 10
PV-drivers-version (MRO): major: 6; minor: 2; micro: 0; build: 70442
PV-drivers-up-to-date ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: true
memory (MRO):
disks (MRO):
VBDs (SRO): 8025ece8-5d5b-43da-4bcb-cee8f7847312; 40bc5cf3-381c-1119-70c2-6749062fc93a
networks (MRO): 1/ip: 70.47.94.71; 1/ipv4/0: 70.47.94.71; 1/ipv6/0: fe80::20a1:89ff:feef:2145; 0/ip: 192.168.2.14; 0/ipv4/0: 192.168.2.14; 0/ipv6/0: fe80::487a:26ff:fe45:e37f
PV-drivers-detected ( RO): true
other (MRO): platform-feature-multiprocessor-suspend: 1; has-vendor-device: 0; feature-suspend: 1; feature-poweroff: 1; feature-reboot: 1; feature-vcpu-hotplug: 1; feature-balloon: 1
live ( RO): true
guest-metrics-last-updated ( RO): 20200401T19:18:46Z
can-use-hotplug-vbd ( RO): unspecified
can-use-hotplug-vif ( RO): unspecified
cooperative ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: true
tags (SRW):
appliance ( RW): <not in database>
snapshot-schedule ( RW): <not in database>
is-vmss-snapshot ( RO): false
start-delay ( RW): 0
shutdown-delay ( RW): 0
order ( RW): 0
version ( RO): 0
generation-id ( RO):
hardware-platform-version ( RO): 0
has-vendor-device ( RW): false
requires-reboot ( RO): false
reference-label ( RO):
bios-strings (MRO): bios-vendor: Xen; bios-version: ; system-manufacturer: Xen; system-product-name: HVM domU; system-version: ; system-serial-number: ; hp-rombios: ; oem-1: Xen; oem-2: MS_VM_CERT/SHA1/bdbeb6e0a816d43fa6d3fe8aaef04c2bad9d3e3d
This is the snap with XOA
xe vm-param-list uuid=05847d68-ae1f-c06b-c05f-aeff2ca5c6fe
uuid ( RO) : 05847d68-ae1f-c06b-c05f-aeff2ca5c6fe
name-label ( RW): Snap with XOA
name-description ( RW): Had to change to HVM and remove "console=hvc0" from kernel line
user-version ( RW): 1
is-a-template ( RW): false
is-default-template ( RW): false
is-a-snapshot ( RO): true
snapshot-of ( RO): ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713
snapshots ( RO):
snapshot-time ( RO): 20200401T20:13:08Z
snapshot-info ( RO): disk-snapshot-type: crash_consistent; power-state-at-snapshot: Running
parent ( RO): 13a6127c-59ab-1da2-1f2c-50fae29b5775
children ( RO): ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713
is-control-domain ( RO): false
power-state ( RO): halted
memory-actual ( RO): 805302272
memory-target ( RO): 0
memory-overhead ( RO): 10485760
memory-static-max ( RW): 805306368
memory-dynamic-max ( RW): 805306368
memory-dynamic-min ( RW): 536870912
memory-static-min ( RW): 536870912
suspend-VDI-uuid ( RW): <not in database>
suspend-SR-uuid ( RW): <not in database>
VCPUs-params (MRW): weight: 256
VCPUs-max ( RW): 2
VCPUs-at-startup ( RW): 2
actions-after-shutdown ( RW): Destroy
actions-after-reboot ( RW): Restart
actions-after-crash ( RW): Restart
console-uuids (SRO):
hvm ( RO): true
platform (MRW): timeoffset: 0; viridian: false; device-model: qemu-upstream-compat; nx: true; acpi: 1; apic: true; pae: true; cores-per-socket: 1
allowed-operations (SRO): destroy; export; revert; clone; copy
current-operations (SRO):
blocked-operations (MRW):
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allowed-VIF-devices (SRO): 2; 3; 4; 5; 6
possible-hosts ( RO): 9f4998bb-a8ec-411d-8f8a-37aaa624731f
domain-type ( RW): hvm
current-domain-type ( RO): hvm
HVM-boot-policy ( RW): BIOS Order
HVM-boot-params (MRW): order: cdn
HVM-shadow-multiplier ( RW): 1.000
PV-kernel ( RW):
PV-ramdisk ( RW):
PV-args ( RW):
PV-legacy-args ( RW):
PV-bootloader ( RW): pygrub
PV-bootloader-args ( RW):
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resident-on ( RO): <not in database>
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@Danp said in XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released:
All I get is the standard new VM "wizard' where you select a template on the first screen.
YES... You're seeing the problem. That list normally contains the Snapshot and its pre-selected so all you do is click next.
Help me get that for you 
What/where can I get "all object info"?
Thx
I see what you're saying... The list in the dialog shows under Templates, but this is the dialog that you get.
If you Snapshot using Center, you can right-click and create a new VM from the snapshot.
If you Snapshot using XOA, when you go to Center, you cannot create a VM from the snapshot.
There appears to be no difference between the two, until you try to create a VM in Center.
Yes, stable channel selected.
I am looking at the snapshot created in XOA, that shows up on Center, under the Snapshots tab (as one would expect.)
That snapshot on Center. Right-click, New VM from Snapshot, brings up the expected dialog, but the Snapshot is not on the list.
Where do you find it as a template?
Not sure if this belongs here or in the XOA thread, or elsewhere:
Running on XCP-ng 8.1
I would expect that a snapshot made in XOA could be used in Center and vice-versa.
I have tried with two VMs with the same result.
I will also repeat, THANK YOU to you and your team for your work. It pains me to read posts questioning your reasons to charge A,B,C for X,Y,Z, and I am on your camp. You need to make it viable... Hence my apprehension to use XO from sources.