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    • DanpD Offline
      Danp Pro Support Team @hvilches
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      @hvilches said in XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released:

      Using XOA 5.44.1 (latest today)

      XOA 5.45.0 was released yesterday. Guessing that you are on the stable channel, correct?

      If I try to create a VM with the snapshot, the snapshot is not pre-selected, nor is it on the list.

      I'm seeing a list of templates, not snapshots.

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        hvilches @Danp
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        @Danp

        Yes, stable channel selected.

        I am looking at the snapshot created in XOA, that shows up on Center, under the Snapshots tab (as one would expect.)

        That snapshot on Center. Right-click, New VM from Snapshot, brings up the expected dialog, but the Snapshot is not on the list.

        Where do you find it as a template?

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        • DanpD Offline
          Danp Pro Support Team
          last edited by

          All I get is the standard new VM "wizard' where you select a template on the first screen.

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            hvilches @Danp
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            @Danp

            I see what you're saying... The list in the dialog shows under Templates, but this is the dialog that you get.

            If you Snapshot using Center, you can right-click and create a new VM from the snapshot.

            If you Snapshot using XOA, when you go to Center, you cannot create a VM from the snapshot.

            There appears to be no difference between the two, until you try to create a VM in Center.

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            • olivierlambertO Offline
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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              Try to get all object info so we can compare what XCP-ng Center is doing vs XO.

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                hvilches @olivierlambert
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                @olivierlambert

                Help me get that for you 🙂
                What/where can I get "all object info"?
                Thx

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                  xe vm-param-list for a VM

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                    hvilches @Danp
                    last edited by

                    @Danp said in XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released:

                    All I get is the standard new VM "wizard' where you select a template on the first screen.

                    YES... You're seeing the problem. That list normally contains the Snapshot and its pre-selected so all you do is click next.

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                      hvilches
                      last edited by

                      @olivierlambert
                      Thank you...

                      This is the snap with Center

                      xe vm-param-list uuid=13a6127c-59ab-1da2-1f2c-50fae29b5775
                      uuid ( RO)                                  : 13a6127c-59ab-1da2-1f2c-50fae29b5775
                                                  name-label ( RW): Snap with Center
                                            name-description ( RW):
                                                user-version ( RW): 1
                                               is-a-template ( RW): true
                                         is-default-template ( RW): false
                                               is-a-snapshot ( RO): true
                                                 snapshot-of ( RO): ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713
                                                   snapshots ( RO):
                                               snapshot-time ( RO): 20200401T20:09:50Z
                                               snapshot-info ( RO): disk-snapshot-type: crash_consistent; power-state-at-snapshot: Running
                                                      parent ( RO): 6fe18ed9-833b-e157-8e7d-cd90e42c0787
                                                    children ( RO): ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713
                                           is-control-domain ( RO): false
                                                 power-state ( RO): halted
                                               memory-actual ( RO): 805302272
                                               memory-target ( RO): 0
                                             memory-overhead ( RO): 10485760
                                           memory-static-max ( RW): 805306368
                                          memory-dynamic-max ( RW): 805306368
                                          memory-dynamic-min ( RW): 536870912
                                           memory-static-min ( RW): 536870912
                                            suspend-VDI-uuid ( RW): <not in database>
                                             suspend-SR-uuid ( RW): <not in database>
                                                VCPUs-params (MRW): weight: 256
                                                   VCPUs-max ( RW): 2
                                            VCPUs-at-startup ( RW): 2
                                      actions-after-shutdown ( RW): Destroy
                                        actions-after-reboot ( RW): Restart
                                         actions-after-crash ( RW): Restart
                                               console-uuids (SRO):
                                                         hvm ( RO): true
                                                    platform (MRW): timeoffset: 0; viridian: false; device-model: qemu-upstream-compat; nx: true; acpi: 1; apic: true; pae: true; cores-per-socket: 1
                                          allowed-operations (SRO): destroy; export; revert; clone; copy
                                          current-operations (SRO):
                                          blocked-operations (MRW):
                                         allowed-VBD-devices (SRO): 1; 2; 4; 5; 6; 7; 8; 9; 10; 11; 12; 13; 14; 15; 16; 17; 18; 19; 20; 21; 22; 23; 24; 25; 26; 27; 28; 29; 30; 31; 32; 33; 34; 35; 36; 37; 38; 39; 40; 41; 42; 43; 44; 45; 46; 47; 48; 49; 50; 51; 52; 53; 54; 55; 56; 57; 58; 59; 60; 61; 62; 63; 64; 65; 66; 67; 68; 69; 70; 71; 72; 73; 74; 75; 76; 77; 78; 79; 80; 81; 82; 83; 84; 85; 86; 87; 88; 89; 90; 91; 92; 93; 94; 95; 96; 97; 98; 99; 100; 101; 102; 103; 104; 105; 106; 107; 108; 109; 110; 111; 112; 113; 114; 115; 116; 117; 118; 119; 120; 121; 122; 123; 124; 125; 126; 127; 128; 129; 130; 131; 132; 133; 134; 135; 136; 137; 138; 139; 140; 141; 142; 143; 144; 145; 146; 147; 148; 149; 150; 151; 152; 153; 154; 155; 156; 157; 158; 159; 160; 161; 162; 163; 164; 165; 166; 167; 168; 169; 170; 171; 172; 173; 174; 175; 176; 177; 178; 179; 180; 181; 182; 183; 184; 185; 186; 187; 188; 189; 190; 191; 192; 193; 194; 195; 196; 197; 198; 199; 200; 201; 202; 203; 204; 205; 206; 207; 208; 209; 210; 211; 212; 213; 214; 215; 216; 217; 218; 219; 220; 221; 222; 223; 224; 225; 226; 227; 228; 229; 230; 231; 232; 233; 234; 235; 236; 237; 238; 239; 240; 241; 242; 243; 244; 245; 246; 247; 248; 249; 250; 251; 252; 253; 254
                                         allowed-VIF-devices (SRO): 2; 3; 4; 5; 6
                                              possible-hosts ( RO): 9f4998bb-a8ec-411d-8f8a-37aaa624731f
                                                 domain-type ( RW): hvm
                                         current-domain-type ( RO): hvm
                                             HVM-boot-policy ( RW): BIOS Order
                                             HVM-boot-params (MRW): order: cdn
                                       HVM-shadow-multiplier ( RW): 1.000
                                                   PV-kernel ( RW):
                                                  PV-ramdisk ( RW):
                                                     PV-args ( RW):
                                              PV-legacy-args ( RW):
                                               PV-bootloader ( RW): pygrub
                                          PV-bootloader-args ( RW):
                                         last-boot-CPU-flags ( RO): vendor: AuthenticAMD; features: 178bfbff-f6f83203-2fd3fbff-040005f7-0000000f-219c01a9-00400004-00000000-00001005-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
                                            last-boot-record ( RO): '('struct' ('uuid' 'ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713') ('allowed_operations' ('array' 'changing_dynamic_range' 'changing_shadow_memory' 'changing_static_range' 'make_into_template' 'migrate_send' 'destroy' 'export' 'start_on' 'start' 'clone' 'copy' 'snapshot')) ('current_operations' ('struct')) ('power_state' 'Halted') ('name_label' 'Ansible') ('name_description' '') ('user_version' '1') ('is_a_template' ('boolean' '0')) ('suspend_VDI' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('resident_on' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('affinity' 'OpaqueRef:c1cb9672-f979-9187-fdfb-b8dac743f0c5') ('memory_overhead' '9437184') ('memory_target' '805306368') ('memory_static_max' '805306368') ('memory_dynamic_max' '805306368') ('memory_dynamic_min' '536870912') ('memory_static_min' '536870912') ('VCPUs_params' ('struct')) ('VCPUs_max' '2') ('VCPUs_at_startup' '2') ('actions_after_shutdown' 'destroy') ('actions_after_reboot' 'restart') ('actions_after_crash' 'restart') ('consoles' ('array')) ('VIFs' ('array' 'OpaqueRef:0f9aa2b3-e016-829d-2aaf-abf91948db87' 'OpaqueRef:e9f78326-81e2-d910-ee10-7b3e10269b51')) ('VBDs' ('array' 'OpaqueRef:df50dc48-1074-a2e6-00cf-cd67e7fa0e0b' 'OpaqueRef:d685ebf9-e289-7ce5-d053-368f5c448042')) ('crash_dumps' ('array')) ('VTPMs' ('array')) ('PV_bootloader' 'pygrub') ('PV_kernel' '') ('PV_ramdisk' '') ('PV_args' 'graphical utf8 vnc') ('PV_bootloader_args' '') ('PV_legacy_args' '') ('HVM_boot_policy' '') ('HVM_boot_params' ('struct')) ('HVM_shadow_multiplier' ('double' '1')) ('platform' ('struct' ('nx' 'true') ('acpi' '1') ('apic' 'true') ('pae' 'true') ('viridian' 'true') ('cores-per-socket' '1'))) ('PCI_bus' '') ('other_config' ('struct' ('import_task' 'OpaqueRef:8a335f29-8caa-0a29-cc3f-bf1a0770bfc8') ('vgpu_pci' '') ('instant' 'true') ('base_template_name' 'CentOS 6 (64-bit)') ('install-repository' 'cdrom') ('linux_template' 'true') ('mac_seed' '8f5c7676-803e-bc1a-1179-a03f3d1c4dba') ('rhel6' 'true') ('install-methods' 'cdrom,nfs,http,ftp'))) ('domid' '-1') ('domarch' '') ('last_boot_CPU_flags' ('struct' ('vendor' 'GenuineIntel') ('features' '0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20000800'))) ('is_control_domain' ('boolean' '0')) ('metrics' 'OpaqueRef:5f279975-1592-941f-e9a7-1147bcd19969') ('guest_metrics' 'OpaqueRef:47854fb7-fc77-7d61-73ef-20db6ecf857d') ('last_booted_record' '') ('recommendations' '<restrictions><restriction field=\"memory-static-max\" max=\"137438953472\" /><restriction field=\"vcpus-max\" max=\"16\" /><restriction property=\"number-of-vbds\" max=\"7\" /><restriction property=\"number-of-vifs\" max=\"7\" /></restrictions>') ('xenstore_data' ('struct' ('vm-data' ''))) ('ha_always_run' ('boolean' '0')) ('ha_restart_priority' '') ('is_a_snapshot' ('boolean' '0')) ('snapshot_of' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('snapshots' ('array')) ('snapshot_time' ('dateTime.iso8601' '19700101T00:00:00Z')) ('transportable_snapshot_id' '') ('blobs' ('struct')) ('tags' ('array')) ('blocked_operations' ('struct')) ('snapshot_info' ('struct')) ('snapshot_metadata' '') ('parent' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('children' ('array')) ('bios_strings' ('struct')) ('protection_policy' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('is_snapshot_from_vmpp' ('boolean' '0')) ('appliance' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('start_delay' '0') ('shutdown_delay' '0') ('order' '0') ('VGPUs' ('array')) ('attached_PCIs' ('array')) ('suspend_SR' 'OpaqueRef:9d96d61b-c00a-1e28-24e1-dc808080d989') ('version' '0') ('generation_id' '') ('hardware_platform_version' '0') ('has_vendor_device' ('boolean' '0')) ('requires_reboot' ('boolean' '0')) ('reference_label' ''))'
                                                 resident-on ( RO): <not in database>
                                                    affinity ( RW): <not in database>
                                                other-config (MRW): import_task: OpaqueRef:7cad0252-3d5a-48f9-bade-d29eddb43e2f; vgpu_pci: ; instant: true; base_template_name: CentOS 6 (64-bit); install-repository: cdrom; linux_template: true; mac_seed: 8f5c7676-803e-bc1a-1179-a03f3d1c4dba; rhel6: true; install-methods: cdrom,nfs,http,ftp; auto_poweron: true
                                                      dom-id ( RO): -1
                                             recommendations ( RO): <restrictions><restriction field="memory-static-max" max="137438953472" /><restriction field="vcpus-max" max="16" /><restriction property="number-of-vbds" max="7" /><restriction property="number-of-vifs" max="7" /></restrictions>
                                               xenstore-data (MRW): vm-data: ; vm-data/mmio-hole-size: 268435456
                                  ha-always-run ( RW) [DEPRECATED]: false
                                         ha-restart-priority ( RW):
                                                       blobs ( RO):
                                                  start-time ( RO): 20200401T19:18:08Z
                                                install-time ( RO): 19700101T00:00:00Z
                                                VCPUs-number ( RO): 2
                                           VCPUs-utilisation (MRO):
                                                  os-version (MRO): name: CentOS release 6.10 (Final); uname: 2.6.32-754.28.1.el6.x86_64; distro: centos; major: 6; minor: 10
                                          PV-drivers-version (MRO): major: 6; minor: 2; micro: 0; build: 70442
                          PV-drivers-up-to-date ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: true
                                                      memory (MRO):
                                                       disks (MRO):
                                                        VBDs (SRO): 8025ece8-5d5b-43da-4bcb-cee8f7847312; 40bc5cf3-381c-1119-70c2-6749062fc93a
                                                    networks (MRO): 1/ip: 70.47.94.71; 1/ipv4/0: 70.47.94.71; 1/ipv6/0: fe80::20a1:89ff:feef:2145; 0/ip: 192.168.2.14; 0/ipv4/0: 192.168.2.14; 0/ipv6/0: fe80::487a:26ff:fe45:e37f
                                         PV-drivers-detected ( RO): true
                                                       other (MRO): platform-feature-multiprocessor-suspend: 1; has-vendor-device: 0; feature-suspend: 1; feature-poweroff: 1; feature-reboot: 1; feature-vcpu-hotplug: 1; feature-balloon: 1
                                                        live ( RO): true
                                  guest-metrics-last-updated ( RO): 20200401T19:18:46Z
                                         can-use-hotplug-vbd ( RO): unspecified
                                         can-use-hotplug-vif ( RO): unspecified
                                    cooperative ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: true
                                                        tags (SRW):
                                                   appliance ( RW): <not in database>
                                           snapshot-schedule ( RW): <not in database>
                                            is-vmss-snapshot ( RO): false
                                                 start-delay ( RW): 0
                                              shutdown-delay ( RW): 0
                                                       order ( RW): 0
                                                     version ( RO): 0
                                               generation-id ( RO):
                                   hardware-platform-version ( RO): 0
                                           has-vendor-device ( RW): false
                                             requires-reboot ( RO): false
                                             reference-label ( RO):
                                                bios-strings (MRO): bios-vendor: Xen; bios-version: ; system-manufacturer: Xen; system-product-name: HVM domU; system-version: ; system-serial-number: ; hp-rombios: ; oem-1: Xen; oem-2: MS_VM_CERT/SHA1/bdbeb6e0a816d43fa6d3fe8aaef04c2bad9d3e3d
                      

                      This is the snap with XOA

                      xe vm-param-list uuid=05847d68-ae1f-c06b-c05f-aeff2ca5c6fe
                      uuid ( RO)                                  : 05847d68-ae1f-c06b-c05f-aeff2ca5c6fe
                                                  name-label ( RW): Snap with XOA
                                            name-description ( RW): Had to change to HVM and remove "console=hvc0" from kernel line
                                                user-version ( RW): 1
                                               is-a-template ( RW): false
                                         is-default-template ( RW): false
                                               is-a-snapshot ( RO): true
                                                 snapshot-of ( RO): ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713
                                                   snapshots ( RO):
                                               snapshot-time ( RO): 20200401T20:13:08Z
                                               snapshot-info ( RO): disk-snapshot-type: crash_consistent; power-state-at-snapshot: Running
                                                      parent ( RO): 13a6127c-59ab-1da2-1f2c-50fae29b5775
                                                    children ( RO): ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713
                                           is-control-domain ( RO): false
                                                 power-state ( RO): halted
                                               memory-actual ( RO): 805302272
                                               memory-target ( RO): 0
                                             memory-overhead ( RO): 10485760
                                           memory-static-max ( RW): 805306368
                                          memory-dynamic-max ( RW): 805306368
                                          memory-dynamic-min ( RW): 536870912
                                           memory-static-min ( RW): 536870912
                                            suspend-VDI-uuid ( RW): <not in database>
                                             suspend-SR-uuid ( RW): <not in database>
                                                VCPUs-params (MRW): weight: 256
                                                   VCPUs-max ( RW): 2
                                            VCPUs-at-startup ( RW): 2
                                      actions-after-shutdown ( RW): Destroy
                                        actions-after-reboot ( RW): Restart
                                         actions-after-crash ( RW): Restart
                                               console-uuids (SRO):
                                                         hvm ( RO): true
                                                    platform (MRW): timeoffset: 0; viridian: false; device-model: qemu-upstream-compat; nx: true; acpi: 1; apic: true; pae: true; cores-per-socket: 1
                                          allowed-operations (SRO): destroy; export; revert; clone; copy
                                          current-operations (SRO):
                                          blocked-operations (MRW):
                                         allowed-VBD-devices (SRO): 1; 2; 4; 5; 6; 7; 8; 9; 10; 11; 12; 13; 14; 15; 16; 17; 18; 19; 20; 21; 22; 23; 24; 25; 26; 27; 28; 29; 30; 31; 32; 33; 34; 35; 36; 37; 38; 39; 40; 41; 42; 43; 44; 45; 46; 47; 48; 49; 50; 51; 52; 53; 54; 55; 56; 57; 58; 59; 60; 61; 62; 63; 64; 65; 66; 67; 68; 69; 70; 71; 72; 73; 74; 75; 76; 77; 78; 79; 80; 81; 82; 83; 84; 85; 86; 87; 88; 89; 90; 91; 92; 93; 94; 95; 96; 97; 98; 99; 100; 101; 102; 103; 104; 105; 106; 107; 108; 109; 110; 111; 112; 113; 114; 115; 116; 117; 118; 119; 120; 121; 122; 123; 124; 125; 126; 127; 128; 129; 130; 131; 132; 133; 134; 135; 136; 137; 138; 139; 140; 141; 142; 143; 144; 145; 146; 147; 148; 149; 150; 151; 152; 153; 154; 155; 156; 157; 158; 159; 160; 161; 162; 163; 164; 165; 166; 167; 168; 169; 170; 171; 172; 173; 174; 175; 176; 177; 178; 179; 180; 181; 182; 183; 184; 185; 186; 187; 188; 189; 190; 191; 192; 193; 194; 195; 196; 197; 198; 199; 200; 201; 202; 203; 204; 205; 206; 207; 208; 209; 210; 211; 212; 213; 214; 215; 216; 217; 218; 219; 220; 221; 222; 223; 224; 225; 226; 227; 228; 229; 230; 231; 232; 233; 234; 235; 236; 237; 238; 239; 240; 241; 242; 243; 244; 245; 246; 247; 248; 249; 250; 251; 252; 253; 254
                                         allowed-VIF-devices (SRO): 2; 3; 4; 5; 6
                                              possible-hosts ( RO): 9f4998bb-a8ec-411d-8f8a-37aaa624731f
                                                 domain-type ( RW): hvm
                                         current-domain-type ( RO): hvm
                                             HVM-boot-policy ( RW): BIOS Order
                                             HVM-boot-params (MRW): order: cdn
                                       HVM-shadow-multiplier ( RW): 1.000
                                                   PV-kernel ( RW):
                                                  PV-ramdisk ( RW):
                                                     PV-args ( RW):
                                              PV-legacy-args ( RW):
                                               PV-bootloader ( RW): pygrub
                                          PV-bootloader-args ( RW):
                                         last-boot-CPU-flags ( RO): vendor: AuthenticAMD; features: 178bfbff-f6f83203-2fd3fbff-040005f7-0000000f-219c01a9-00400004-00000000-00001005-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
                                            last-boot-record ( RO): '('struct' ('uuid' 'ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713') ('allowed_operations' ('array' 'changing_dynamic_range' 'changing_shadow_memory' 'changing_static_range' 'make_into_template' 'migrate_send' 'destroy' 'export' 'start_on' 'start' 'clone' 'copy' 'snapshot')) ('current_operations' ('struct')) ('power_state' 'Halted') ('name_label' 'Ansible') ('name_description' '') ('user_version' '1') ('is_a_template' ('boolean' '0')) ('suspend_VDI' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('resident_on' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('affinity' 'OpaqueRef:c1cb9672-f979-9187-fdfb-b8dac743f0c5') ('memory_overhead' '9437184') ('memory_target' '805306368') ('memory_static_max' '805306368') ('memory_dynamic_max' '805306368') ('memory_dynamic_min' '536870912') ('memory_static_min' '536870912') ('VCPUs_params' ('struct')) ('VCPUs_max' '2') ('VCPUs_at_startup' '2') ('actions_after_shutdown' 'destroy') ('actions_after_reboot' 'restart') ('actions_after_crash' 'restart') ('consoles' ('array')) ('VIFs' ('array' 'OpaqueRef:0f9aa2b3-e016-829d-2aaf-abf91948db87' 'OpaqueRef:e9f78326-81e2-d910-ee10-7b3e10269b51')) ('VBDs' ('array' 'OpaqueRef:df50dc48-1074-a2e6-00cf-cd67e7fa0e0b' 'OpaqueRef:d685ebf9-e289-7ce5-d053-368f5c448042')) ('crash_dumps' ('array')) ('VTPMs' ('array')) ('PV_bootloader' 'pygrub') ('PV_kernel' '') ('PV_ramdisk' '') ('PV_args' 'graphical utf8 vnc') ('PV_bootloader_args' '') ('PV_legacy_args' '') ('HVM_boot_policy' '') ('HVM_boot_params' ('struct')) ('HVM_shadow_multiplier' ('double' '1')) ('platform' ('struct' ('nx' 'true') ('acpi' '1') ('apic' 'true') ('pae' 'true') ('viridian' 'true') ('cores-per-socket' '1'))) ('PCI_bus' '') ('other_config' ('struct' ('import_task' 'OpaqueRef:8a335f29-8caa-0a29-cc3f-bf1a0770bfc8') ('vgpu_pci' '') ('instant' 'true') ('base_template_name' 'CentOS 6 (64-bit)') ('install-repository' 'cdrom') ('linux_template' 'true') ('mac_seed' '8f5c7676-803e-bc1a-1179-a03f3d1c4dba') ('rhel6' 'true') ('install-methods' 'cdrom,nfs,http,ftp'))) ('domid' '-1') ('domarch' '') ('last_boot_CPU_flags' ('struct' ('vendor' 'GenuineIntel') ('features' '0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20000800'))) ('is_control_domain' ('boolean' '0')) ('metrics' 'OpaqueRef:5f279975-1592-941f-e9a7-1147bcd19969') ('guest_metrics' 'OpaqueRef:47854fb7-fc77-7d61-73ef-20db6ecf857d') ('last_booted_record' '') ('recommendations' '<restrictions><restriction field=\"memory-static-max\" max=\"137438953472\" /><restriction field=\"vcpus-max\" max=\"16\" /><restriction property=\"number-of-vbds\" max=\"7\" /><restriction property=\"number-of-vifs\" max=\"7\" /></restrictions>') ('xenstore_data' ('struct' ('vm-data' ''))) ('ha_always_run' ('boolean' '0')) ('ha_restart_priority' '') ('is_a_snapshot' ('boolean' '0')) ('snapshot_of' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('snapshots' ('array')) ('snapshot_time' ('dateTime.iso8601' '19700101T00:00:00Z')) ('transportable_snapshot_id' '') ('blobs' ('struct')) ('tags' ('array')) ('blocked_operations' ('struct')) ('snapshot_info' ('struct')) ('snapshot_metadata' '') ('parent' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('children' ('array')) ('bios_strings' ('struct')) ('protection_policy' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('is_snapshot_from_vmpp' ('boolean' '0')) ('appliance' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('start_delay' '0') ('shutdown_delay' '0') ('order' '0') ('VGPUs' ('array')) ('attached_PCIs' ('array')) ('suspend_SR' 'OpaqueRef:9d96d61b-c00a-1e28-24e1-dc808080d989') ('version' '0') ('generation_id' '') ('hardware_platform_version' '0') ('has_vendor_device' ('boolean' '0')) ('requires_reboot' ('boolean' '0')) ('reference_label' ''))'
                                                 resident-on ( RO): <not in database>
                                                    affinity ( RW): <not in database>
                                                other-config (MRW): import_task: OpaqueRef:7cad0252-3d5a-48f9-bade-d29eddb43e2f; vgpu_pci: ; instant: true; base_template_name: CentOS 6 (64-bit); install-repository: cdrom; linux_template: true; mac_seed: 8f5c7676-803e-bc1a-1179-a03f3d1c4dba; rhel6: true; install-methods: cdrom,nfs,http,ftp; auto_poweron: true
                                                      dom-id ( RO): -1
                                             recommendations ( RO): <restrictions><restriction field="memory-static-max" max="137438953472" /><restriction field="vcpus-max" max="16" /><restriction property="number-of-vbds" max="7" /><restriction property="number-of-vifs" max="7" /></restrictions>
                                               xenstore-data (MRW): vm-data: ; vm-data/mmio-hole-size: 268435456
                                  ha-always-run ( RW) [DEPRECATED]: false
                                         ha-restart-priority ( RW):
                                                       blobs ( RO):
                                                  start-time ( RO): 20200401T19:18:08Z
                                                install-time ( RO): 20200401T20:13:09Z
                                                VCPUs-number ( RO): 2
                                           VCPUs-utilisation (MRO):
                                                  os-version (MRO): name: CentOS release 6.10 (Final); uname: 2.6.32-754.28.1.el6.x86_64; distro: centos; major: 6; minor: 10
                                          PV-drivers-version (MRO): major: 6; minor: 2; micro: 0; build: 70442
                          PV-drivers-up-to-date ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: true
                                                      memory (MRO):
                                                       disks (MRO):
                                                        VBDs (SRO): 42cd13eb-2c57-e125-dabc-03a565a53b9d; 12603443-32bd-2bd1-44b7-dcfb08b6e659
                                                    networks (MRO): 1/ip: 70.47.94.71; 1/ipv4/0: 70.47.94.71; 1/ipv6/0: fe80::20a1:89ff:feef:2145; 0/ip: 192.168.2.14; 0/ipv4/0: 192.168.2.14; 0/ipv6/0: fe80::487a:26ff:fe45:e37f
                                         PV-drivers-detected ( RO): true
                                                       other (MRO): platform-feature-multiprocessor-suspend: 1; has-vendor-device: 0; feature-suspend: 1; feature-poweroff: 1; feature-reboot: 1; feature-vcpu-hotplug: 1; feature-balloon: 1
                                                        live ( RO): true
                                  guest-metrics-last-updated ( RO): 20200401T19:18:46Z
                                         can-use-hotplug-vbd ( RO): unspecified
                                         can-use-hotplug-vif ( RO): unspecified
                                    cooperative ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: true
                                                        tags (SRW):
                                                   appliance ( RW): <not in database>
                                           snapshot-schedule ( RW): <not in database>
                                            is-vmss-snapshot ( RO): false
                                                 start-delay ( RW): 0
                                              shutdown-delay ( RW): 0
                                                       order ( RW): 0
                                                     version ( RO): 0
                                               generation-id ( RO):
                                   hardware-platform-version ( RO): 0
                                           has-vendor-device ( RW): false
                                             requires-reboot ( RO): false
                                             reference-label ( RO):
                                                bios-strings (MRO): bios-vendor: Xen; bios-version: ; system-manufacturer: Xen; system-product-name: HVM domU; system-version: ; system-serial-number: ; hp-rombios: ; oem-1: Xen; oem-2: MS_VM_CERT/SHA1/bdbeb6e0a816d43fa6d3fe8aaef04c2bad9d3e3d
                      
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                        Danp Pro Support Team @hvilches
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                        @hvilches said in XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released:

                        is-a-template ( RW): true

                        Looks like this is the culprit...

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                          last edited by hvilches

                          I am learning so much... thank you.

                          The issue probably here, the flags:

                          uuid ( RO)                                  : 13a6127c-59ab-1da2-1f2c-50fae29b5775
                                                      name-label ( RW): Snap with Center
                                                name-description ( RW):
                                                    user-version ( RW): 1
                                                   is-a-template ( RW): true
                                             is-default-template ( RW): false
                                                   is-a-snapshot ( RO): true
                          
                          uuid ( RO)                                  : 05847d68-ae1f-c06b-c05f-aeff2ca5c6fe
                                                      name-label ( RW): Snap with XOA
                                                name-description ( RW): Had to change to HVM and remove "console=hvc0" from kernel line
                                                    user-version ( RW): 1
                                                   is-a-template ( RW): false
                                             is-default-template ( RW): false
                                                   is-a-snapshot ( RO): true
                          
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                            hvilches @Danp
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                            @Danp said in XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released:

                            @hvilches said in XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released:

                            is-a-template ( RW): true

                            Looks like this is the culprit...

                            You beat me to it.

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                              last edited by hvilches

                              Also worth noting is that Center isn't adding the name-description string, whereas XOA is.

                              No... XOA is defaulting to the name-description (as expected.) and Center is asking for one, and I left it blank... No issue here.

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                                borzel XCP-ng Center Team
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                                So it's clear to me (as thinking of inside Center): it is not a "template", so the snapshot is not working in the VM creation wizard. That's also the case with XOA snaps from backups, you can not create a VM from that in Center.. I always wondered about that, but as you found the flag it seems clear to me.

                                We could fix it in two ways:

                                • let Center create VMs from also from snapshot that are not "a template"
                                • don't show the menu entry in Center on the snapshot list if it is not "is-template"

                                I wonder why this flag is important, what was the reason to program Center this way 🤔

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                                  hvilches @borzel
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                                  @borzel

                                  I would surmise, that since Center is behaving as it has for as long as I can remember, the fix should be applied to XO.

                                  XO should set the template flag on a snapshot, so XenCenter and XCP-ng Center both behave as expected. The two flags I imagine are used by XenCenter and XCP-ng to build lists in the relevant dialogs that require ONLY templates, or templates and snapshots of a given VM. In this case, the dialog looks to show is-a-template (true) and is-a-snap-shot (true) and is it for the selected VM.

                                  That said, I don't know enough about the implications. It may just be a flag, or there is something much deeper going on.

                                  Said another way, if XO's snapshots are generated identically to Center's snapshots, then the flag is the only difference. The flag would be the only fix needed.

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                                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                    We won't change a behavior on XO without having a good reason to do so. Historical reason is not a good one 😛 Happy to learn more if it's relevant to anything 🙂

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                                      @olivierlambert

                                      Said another way, if XO's snapshots are generated identically to Center's snapshots, then the flag is the only difference. The flag would be the only fix needed.

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                                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                        "Fix needed" from your perspective, not for mine, until there's a good reason to do so 🙂

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                                            @olivierlambert

                                            Your response worries me. How many other features in Center, replicated in XO, are actually not the same feature? As a user, I trust that a snapshot in *Center or XO behave identically across both. They are both supposed to be using the same API. Why are they different? Over time, it would lead to distrust of XO.

                                            I have just learned, for example, I cannot trust XO snapshots. And what problems might I encounter with VMs created in XO today, when I try to manage them in Center, months from now?

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