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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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      xe vm-param-list for a VM

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      • H Offline
        hvilches @Danp
        last edited by

        @Danp said in XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released:

        All I get is the standard new VM "wizard' where you select a template on the first screen.

        YES... You're seeing the problem. That list normally contains the Snapshot and its pre-selected so all you do is click next.

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          hvilches
          last edited by

          @olivierlambert
          Thank you...

          This is the snap with Center

          xe vm-param-list uuid=13a6127c-59ab-1da2-1f2c-50fae29b5775
          uuid ( RO)                                  : 13a6127c-59ab-1da2-1f2c-50fae29b5775
                                      name-label ( RW): Snap with Center
                                name-description ( RW):
                                    user-version ( RW): 1
                                   is-a-template ( RW): true
                             is-default-template ( RW): false
                                   is-a-snapshot ( RO): true
                                     snapshot-of ( RO): ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713
                                       snapshots ( RO):
                                   snapshot-time ( RO): 20200401T20:09:50Z
                                   snapshot-info ( RO): disk-snapshot-type: crash_consistent; power-state-at-snapshot: Running
                                          parent ( RO): 6fe18ed9-833b-e157-8e7d-cd90e42c0787
                                        children ( RO): ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713
                               is-control-domain ( RO): false
                                     power-state ( RO): halted
                                   memory-actual ( RO): 805302272
                                   memory-target ( RO): 0
                                 memory-overhead ( RO): 10485760
                               memory-static-max ( RW): 805306368
                              memory-dynamic-max ( RW): 805306368
                              memory-dynamic-min ( RW): 536870912
                               memory-static-min ( RW): 536870912
                                suspend-VDI-uuid ( RW): <not in database>
                                 suspend-SR-uuid ( RW): <not in database>
                                    VCPUs-params (MRW): weight: 256
                                       VCPUs-max ( RW): 2
                                VCPUs-at-startup ( RW): 2
                          actions-after-shutdown ( RW): Destroy
                            actions-after-reboot ( RW): Restart
                             actions-after-crash ( RW): Restart
                                   console-uuids (SRO):
                                             hvm ( RO): true
                                        platform (MRW): timeoffset: 0; viridian: false; device-model: qemu-upstream-compat; nx: true; acpi: 1; apic: true; pae: true; cores-per-socket: 1
                              allowed-operations (SRO): destroy; export; revert; clone; copy
                              current-operations (SRO):
                              blocked-operations (MRW):
                             allowed-VBD-devices (SRO): 1; 2; 4; 5; 6; 7; 8; 9; 10; 11; 12; 13; 14; 15; 16; 17; 18; 19; 20; 21; 22; 23; 24; 25; 26; 27; 28; 29; 30; 31; 32; 33; 34; 35; 36; 37; 38; 39; 40; 41; 42; 43; 44; 45; 46; 47; 48; 49; 50; 51; 52; 53; 54; 55; 56; 57; 58; 59; 60; 61; 62; 63; 64; 65; 66; 67; 68; 69; 70; 71; 72; 73; 74; 75; 76; 77; 78; 79; 80; 81; 82; 83; 84; 85; 86; 87; 88; 89; 90; 91; 92; 93; 94; 95; 96; 97; 98; 99; 100; 101; 102; 103; 104; 105; 106; 107; 108; 109; 110; 111; 112; 113; 114; 115; 116; 117; 118; 119; 120; 121; 122; 123; 124; 125; 126; 127; 128; 129; 130; 131; 132; 133; 134; 135; 136; 137; 138; 139; 140; 141; 142; 143; 144; 145; 146; 147; 148; 149; 150; 151; 152; 153; 154; 155; 156; 157; 158; 159; 160; 161; 162; 163; 164; 165; 166; 167; 168; 169; 170; 171; 172; 173; 174; 175; 176; 177; 178; 179; 180; 181; 182; 183; 184; 185; 186; 187; 188; 189; 190; 191; 192; 193; 194; 195; 196; 197; 198; 199; 200; 201; 202; 203; 204; 205; 206; 207; 208; 209; 210; 211; 212; 213; 214; 215; 216; 217; 218; 219; 220; 221; 222; 223; 224; 225; 226; 227; 228; 229; 230; 231; 232; 233; 234; 235; 236; 237; 238; 239; 240; 241; 242; 243; 244; 245; 246; 247; 248; 249; 250; 251; 252; 253; 254
                             allowed-VIF-devices (SRO): 2; 3; 4; 5; 6
                                  possible-hosts ( RO): 9f4998bb-a8ec-411d-8f8a-37aaa624731f
                                     domain-type ( RW): hvm
                             current-domain-type ( RO): hvm
                                 HVM-boot-policy ( RW): BIOS Order
                                 HVM-boot-params (MRW): order: cdn
                           HVM-shadow-multiplier ( RW): 1.000
                                       PV-kernel ( RW):
                                      PV-ramdisk ( RW):
                                         PV-args ( RW):
                                  PV-legacy-args ( RW):
                                   PV-bootloader ( RW): pygrub
                              PV-bootloader-args ( RW):
                             last-boot-CPU-flags ( RO): vendor: AuthenticAMD; features: 178bfbff-f6f83203-2fd3fbff-040005f7-0000000f-219c01a9-00400004-00000000-00001005-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
                                last-boot-record ( RO): '('struct' ('uuid' 'ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713') ('allowed_operations' ('array' 'changing_dynamic_range' 'changing_shadow_memory' 'changing_static_range' 'make_into_template' 'migrate_send' 'destroy' 'export' 'start_on' 'start' 'clone' 'copy' 'snapshot')) ('current_operations' ('struct')) ('power_state' 'Halted') ('name_label' 'Ansible') ('name_description' '') ('user_version' '1') ('is_a_template' ('boolean' '0')) ('suspend_VDI' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('resident_on' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('affinity' 'OpaqueRef:c1cb9672-f979-9187-fdfb-b8dac743f0c5') ('memory_overhead' '9437184') ('memory_target' '805306368') ('memory_static_max' '805306368') ('memory_dynamic_max' '805306368') ('memory_dynamic_min' '536870912') ('memory_static_min' '536870912') ('VCPUs_params' ('struct')) ('VCPUs_max' '2') ('VCPUs_at_startup' '2') ('actions_after_shutdown' 'destroy') ('actions_after_reboot' 'restart') ('actions_after_crash' 'restart') ('consoles' ('array')) ('VIFs' ('array' 'OpaqueRef:0f9aa2b3-e016-829d-2aaf-abf91948db87' 'OpaqueRef:e9f78326-81e2-d910-ee10-7b3e10269b51')) ('VBDs' ('array' 'OpaqueRef:df50dc48-1074-a2e6-00cf-cd67e7fa0e0b' 'OpaqueRef:d685ebf9-e289-7ce5-d053-368f5c448042')) ('crash_dumps' ('array')) ('VTPMs' ('array')) ('PV_bootloader' 'pygrub') ('PV_kernel' '') ('PV_ramdisk' '') ('PV_args' 'graphical utf8 vnc') ('PV_bootloader_args' '') ('PV_legacy_args' '') ('HVM_boot_policy' '') ('HVM_boot_params' ('struct')) ('HVM_shadow_multiplier' ('double' '1')) ('platform' ('struct' ('nx' 'true') ('acpi' '1') ('apic' 'true') ('pae' 'true') ('viridian' 'true') ('cores-per-socket' '1'))) ('PCI_bus' '') ('other_config' ('struct' ('import_task' 'OpaqueRef:8a335f29-8caa-0a29-cc3f-bf1a0770bfc8') ('vgpu_pci' '') ('instant' 'true') ('base_template_name' 'CentOS 6 (64-bit)') ('install-repository' 'cdrom') ('linux_template' 'true') ('mac_seed' '8f5c7676-803e-bc1a-1179-a03f3d1c4dba') ('rhel6' 'true') ('install-methods' 'cdrom,nfs,http,ftp'))) ('domid' '-1') ('domarch' '') ('last_boot_CPU_flags' ('struct' ('vendor' 'GenuineIntel') ('features' '0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20000800'))) ('is_control_domain' ('boolean' '0')) ('metrics' 'OpaqueRef:5f279975-1592-941f-e9a7-1147bcd19969') ('guest_metrics' 'OpaqueRef:47854fb7-fc77-7d61-73ef-20db6ecf857d') ('last_booted_record' '') ('recommendations' '<restrictions><restriction field=\"memory-static-max\" max=\"137438953472\" /><restriction field=\"vcpus-max\" max=\"16\" /><restriction property=\"number-of-vbds\" max=\"7\" /><restriction property=\"number-of-vifs\" max=\"7\" /></restrictions>') ('xenstore_data' ('struct' ('vm-data' ''))) ('ha_always_run' ('boolean' '0')) ('ha_restart_priority' '') ('is_a_snapshot' ('boolean' '0')) ('snapshot_of' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('snapshots' ('array')) ('snapshot_time' ('dateTime.iso8601' '19700101T00:00:00Z')) ('transportable_snapshot_id' '') ('blobs' ('struct')) ('tags' ('array')) ('blocked_operations' ('struct')) ('snapshot_info' ('struct')) ('snapshot_metadata' '') ('parent' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('children' ('array')) ('bios_strings' ('struct')) ('protection_policy' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('is_snapshot_from_vmpp' ('boolean' '0')) ('appliance' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('start_delay' '0') ('shutdown_delay' '0') ('order' '0') ('VGPUs' ('array')) ('attached_PCIs' ('array')) ('suspend_SR' 'OpaqueRef:9d96d61b-c00a-1e28-24e1-dc808080d989') ('version' '0') ('generation_id' '') ('hardware_platform_version' '0') ('has_vendor_device' ('boolean' '0')) ('requires_reboot' ('boolean' '0')) ('reference_label' ''))'
                                     resident-on ( RO): <not in database>
                                        affinity ( RW): <not in database>
                                    other-config (MRW): import_task: OpaqueRef:7cad0252-3d5a-48f9-bade-d29eddb43e2f; vgpu_pci: ; instant: true; base_template_name: CentOS 6 (64-bit); install-repository: cdrom; linux_template: true; mac_seed: 8f5c7676-803e-bc1a-1179-a03f3d1c4dba; rhel6: true; install-methods: cdrom,nfs,http,ftp; auto_poweron: true
                                          dom-id ( RO): -1
                                 recommendations ( RO): <restrictions><restriction field="memory-static-max" max="137438953472" /><restriction field="vcpus-max" max="16" /><restriction property="number-of-vbds" max="7" /><restriction property="number-of-vifs" max="7" /></restrictions>
                                   xenstore-data (MRW): vm-data: ; vm-data/mmio-hole-size: 268435456
                      ha-always-run ( RW) [DEPRECATED]: false
                             ha-restart-priority ( RW):
                                           blobs ( RO):
                                      start-time ( RO): 20200401T19:18:08Z
                                    install-time ( RO): 19700101T00:00:00Z
                                    VCPUs-number ( RO): 2
                               VCPUs-utilisation (MRO):
                                      os-version (MRO): name: CentOS release 6.10 (Final); uname: 2.6.32-754.28.1.el6.x86_64; distro: centos; major: 6; minor: 10
                              PV-drivers-version (MRO): major: 6; minor: 2; micro: 0; build: 70442
              PV-drivers-up-to-date ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: true
                                          memory (MRO):
                                           disks (MRO):
                                            VBDs (SRO): 8025ece8-5d5b-43da-4bcb-cee8f7847312; 40bc5cf3-381c-1119-70c2-6749062fc93a
                                        networks (MRO): 1/ip: 70.47.94.71; 1/ipv4/0: 70.47.94.71; 1/ipv6/0: fe80::20a1:89ff:feef:2145; 0/ip: 192.168.2.14; 0/ipv4/0: 192.168.2.14; 0/ipv6/0: fe80::487a:26ff:fe45:e37f
                             PV-drivers-detected ( RO): true
                                           other (MRO): platform-feature-multiprocessor-suspend: 1; has-vendor-device: 0; feature-suspend: 1; feature-poweroff: 1; feature-reboot: 1; feature-vcpu-hotplug: 1; feature-balloon: 1
                                            live ( RO): true
                      guest-metrics-last-updated ( RO): 20200401T19:18:46Z
                             can-use-hotplug-vbd ( RO): unspecified
                             can-use-hotplug-vif ( RO): unspecified
                        cooperative ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: true
                                            tags (SRW):
                                       appliance ( RW): <not in database>
                               snapshot-schedule ( RW): <not in database>
                                is-vmss-snapshot ( RO): false
                                     start-delay ( RW): 0
                                  shutdown-delay ( RW): 0
                                           order ( RW): 0
                                         version ( RO): 0
                                   generation-id ( RO):
                       hardware-platform-version ( RO): 0
                               has-vendor-device ( RW): false
                                 requires-reboot ( RO): false
                                 reference-label ( RO):
                                    bios-strings (MRO): bios-vendor: Xen; bios-version: ; system-manufacturer: Xen; system-product-name: HVM domU; system-version: ; system-serial-number: ; hp-rombios: ; oem-1: Xen; oem-2: MS_VM_CERT/SHA1/bdbeb6e0a816d43fa6d3fe8aaef04c2bad9d3e3d
          

          This is the snap with XOA

          xe vm-param-list uuid=05847d68-ae1f-c06b-c05f-aeff2ca5c6fe
          uuid ( RO)                                  : 05847d68-ae1f-c06b-c05f-aeff2ca5c6fe
                                      name-label ( RW): Snap with XOA
                                name-description ( RW): Had to change to HVM and remove "console=hvc0" from kernel line
                                    user-version ( RW): 1
                                   is-a-template ( RW): false
                             is-default-template ( RW): false
                                   is-a-snapshot ( RO): true
                                     snapshot-of ( RO): ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713
                                       snapshots ( RO):
                                   snapshot-time ( RO): 20200401T20:13:08Z
                                   snapshot-info ( RO): disk-snapshot-type: crash_consistent; power-state-at-snapshot: Running
                                          parent ( RO): 13a6127c-59ab-1da2-1f2c-50fae29b5775
                                        children ( RO): ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713
                               is-control-domain ( RO): false
                                     power-state ( RO): halted
                                   memory-actual ( RO): 805302272
                                   memory-target ( RO): 0
                                 memory-overhead ( RO): 10485760
                               memory-static-max ( RW): 805306368
                              memory-dynamic-max ( RW): 805306368
                              memory-dynamic-min ( RW): 536870912
                               memory-static-min ( RW): 536870912
                                suspend-VDI-uuid ( RW): <not in database>
                                 suspend-SR-uuid ( RW): <not in database>
                                    VCPUs-params (MRW): weight: 256
                                       VCPUs-max ( RW): 2
                                VCPUs-at-startup ( RW): 2
                          actions-after-shutdown ( RW): Destroy
                            actions-after-reboot ( RW): Restart
                             actions-after-crash ( RW): Restart
                                   console-uuids (SRO):
                                             hvm ( RO): true
                                        platform (MRW): timeoffset: 0; viridian: false; device-model: qemu-upstream-compat; nx: true; acpi: 1; apic: true; pae: true; cores-per-socket: 1
                              allowed-operations (SRO): destroy; export; revert; clone; copy
                              current-operations (SRO):
                              blocked-operations (MRW):
                             allowed-VBD-devices (SRO): 1; 2; 4; 5; 6; 7; 8; 9; 10; 11; 12; 13; 14; 15; 16; 17; 18; 19; 20; 21; 22; 23; 24; 25; 26; 27; 28; 29; 30; 31; 32; 33; 34; 35; 36; 37; 38; 39; 40; 41; 42; 43; 44; 45; 46; 47; 48; 49; 50; 51; 52; 53; 54; 55; 56; 57; 58; 59; 60; 61; 62; 63; 64; 65; 66; 67; 68; 69; 70; 71; 72; 73; 74; 75; 76; 77; 78; 79; 80; 81; 82; 83; 84; 85; 86; 87; 88; 89; 90; 91; 92; 93; 94; 95; 96; 97; 98; 99; 100; 101; 102; 103; 104; 105; 106; 107; 108; 109; 110; 111; 112; 113; 114; 115; 116; 117; 118; 119; 120; 121; 122; 123; 124; 125; 126; 127; 128; 129; 130; 131; 132; 133; 134; 135; 136; 137; 138; 139; 140; 141; 142; 143; 144; 145; 146; 147; 148; 149; 150; 151; 152; 153; 154; 155; 156; 157; 158; 159; 160; 161; 162; 163; 164; 165; 166; 167; 168; 169; 170; 171; 172; 173; 174; 175; 176; 177; 178; 179; 180; 181; 182; 183; 184; 185; 186; 187; 188; 189; 190; 191; 192; 193; 194; 195; 196; 197; 198; 199; 200; 201; 202; 203; 204; 205; 206; 207; 208; 209; 210; 211; 212; 213; 214; 215; 216; 217; 218; 219; 220; 221; 222; 223; 224; 225; 226; 227; 228; 229; 230; 231; 232; 233; 234; 235; 236; 237; 238; 239; 240; 241; 242; 243; 244; 245; 246; 247; 248; 249; 250; 251; 252; 253; 254
                             allowed-VIF-devices (SRO): 2; 3; 4; 5; 6
                                  possible-hosts ( RO): 9f4998bb-a8ec-411d-8f8a-37aaa624731f
                                     domain-type ( RW): hvm
                             current-domain-type ( RO): hvm
                                 HVM-boot-policy ( RW): BIOS Order
                                 HVM-boot-params (MRW): order: cdn
                           HVM-shadow-multiplier ( RW): 1.000
                                       PV-kernel ( RW):
                                      PV-ramdisk ( RW):
                                         PV-args ( RW):
                                  PV-legacy-args ( RW):
                                   PV-bootloader ( RW): pygrub
                              PV-bootloader-args ( RW):
                             last-boot-CPU-flags ( RO): vendor: AuthenticAMD; features: 178bfbff-f6f83203-2fd3fbff-040005f7-0000000f-219c01a9-00400004-00000000-00001005-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000
                                last-boot-record ( RO): '('struct' ('uuid' 'ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713') ('allowed_operations' ('array' 'changing_dynamic_range' 'changing_shadow_memory' 'changing_static_range' 'make_into_template' 'migrate_send' 'destroy' 'export' 'start_on' 'start' 'clone' 'copy' 'snapshot')) ('current_operations' ('struct')) ('power_state' 'Halted') ('name_label' 'Ansible') ('name_description' '') ('user_version' '1') ('is_a_template' ('boolean' '0')) ('suspend_VDI' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('resident_on' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('affinity' 'OpaqueRef:c1cb9672-f979-9187-fdfb-b8dac743f0c5') ('memory_overhead' '9437184') ('memory_target' '805306368') ('memory_static_max' '805306368') ('memory_dynamic_max' '805306368') ('memory_dynamic_min' '536870912') ('memory_static_min' '536870912') ('VCPUs_params' ('struct')) ('VCPUs_max' '2') ('VCPUs_at_startup' '2') ('actions_after_shutdown' 'destroy') ('actions_after_reboot' 'restart') ('actions_after_crash' 'restart') ('consoles' ('array')) ('VIFs' ('array' 'OpaqueRef:0f9aa2b3-e016-829d-2aaf-abf91948db87' 'OpaqueRef:e9f78326-81e2-d910-ee10-7b3e10269b51')) ('VBDs' ('array' 'OpaqueRef:df50dc48-1074-a2e6-00cf-cd67e7fa0e0b' 'OpaqueRef:d685ebf9-e289-7ce5-d053-368f5c448042')) ('crash_dumps' ('array')) ('VTPMs' ('array')) ('PV_bootloader' 'pygrub') ('PV_kernel' '') ('PV_ramdisk' '') ('PV_args' 'graphical utf8 vnc') ('PV_bootloader_args' '') ('PV_legacy_args' '') ('HVM_boot_policy' '') ('HVM_boot_params' ('struct')) ('HVM_shadow_multiplier' ('double' '1')) ('platform' ('struct' ('nx' 'true') ('acpi' '1') ('apic' 'true') ('pae' 'true') ('viridian' 'true') ('cores-per-socket' '1'))) ('PCI_bus' '') ('other_config' ('struct' ('import_task' 'OpaqueRef:8a335f29-8caa-0a29-cc3f-bf1a0770bfc8') ('vgpu_pci' '') ('instant' 'true') ('base_template_name' 'CentOS 6 (64-bit)') ('install-repository' 'cdrom') ('linux_template' 'true') ('mac_seed' '8f5c7676-803e-bc1a-1179-a03f3d1c4dba') ('rhel6' 'true') ('install-methods' 'cdrom,nfs,http,ftp'))) ('domid' '-1') ('domarch' '') ('last_boot_CPU_flags' ('struct' ('vendor' 'GenuineIntel') ('features' '0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20000800'))) ('is_control_domain' ('boolean' '0')) ('metrics' 'OpaqueRef:5f279975-1592-941f-e9a7-1147bcd19969') ('guest_metrics' 'OpaqueRef:47854fb7-fc77-7d61-73ef-20db6ecf857d') ('last_booted_record' '') ('recommendations' '<restrictions><restriction field=\"memory-static-max\" max=\"137438953472\" /><restriction field=\"vcpus-max\" max=\"16\" /><restriction property=\"number-of-vbds\" max=\"7\" /><restriction property=\"number-of-vifs\" max=\"7\" /></restrictions>') ('xenstore_data' ('struct' ('vm-data' ''))) ('ha_always_run' ('boolean' '0')) ('ha_restart_priority' '') ('is_a_snapshot' ('boolean' '0')) ('snapshot_of' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('snapshots' ('array')) ('snapshot_time' ('dateTime.iso8601' '19700101T00:00:00Z')) ('transportable_snapshot_id' '') ('blobs' ('struct')) ('tags' ('array')) ('blocked_operations' ('struct')) ('snapshot_info' ('struct')) ('snapshot_metadata' '') ('parent' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('children' ('array')) ('bios_strings' ('struct')) ('protection_policy' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('is_snapshot_from_vmpp' ('boolean' '0')) ('appliance' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('start_delay' '0') ('shutdown_delay' '0') ('order' '0') ('VGPUs' ('array')) ('attached_PCIs' ('array')) ('suspend_SR' 'OpaqueRef:9d96d61b-c00a-1e28-24e1-dc808080d989') ('version' '0') ('generation_id' '') ('hardware_platform_version' '0') ('has_vendor_device' ('boolean' '0')) ('requires_reboot' ('boolean' '0')) ('reference_label' ''))'
                                     resident-on ( RO): <not in database>
                                        affinity ( RW): <not in database>
                                    other-config (MRW): import_task: OpaqueRef:7cad0252-3d5a-48f9-bade-d29eddb43e2f; vgpu_pci: ; instant: true; base_template_name: CentOS 6 (64-bit); install-repository: cdrom; linux_template: true; mac_seed: 8f5c7676-803e-bc1a-1179-a03f3d1c4dba; rhel6: true; install-methods: cdrom,nfs,http,ftp; auto_poweron: true
                                          dom-id ( RO): -1
                                 recommendations ( RO): <restrictions><restriction field="memory-static-max" max="137438953472" /><restriction field="vcpus-max" max="16" /><restriction property="number-of-vbds" max="7" /><restriction property="number-of-vifs" max="7" /></restrictions>
                                   xenstore-data (MRW): vm-data: ; vm-data/mmio-hole-size: 268435456
                      ha-always-run ( RW) [DEPRECATED]: false
                             ha-restart-priority ( RW):
                                           blobs ( RO):
                                      start-time ( RO): 20200401T19:18:08Z
                                    install-time ( RO): 20200401T20:13:09Z
                                    VCPUs-number ( RO): 2
                               VCPUs-utilisation (MRO):
                                      os-version (MRO): name: CentOS release 6.10 (Final); uname: 2.6.32-754.28.1.el6.x86_64; distro: centos; major: 6; minor: 10
                              PV-drivers-version (MRO): major: 6; minor: 2; micro: 0; build: 70442
              PV-drivers-up-to-date ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: true
                                          memory (MRO):
                                           disks (MRO):
                                            VBDs (SRO): 42cd13eb-2c57-e125-dabc-03a565a53b9d; 12603443-32bd-2bd1-44b7-dcfb08b6e659
                                        networks (MRO): 1/ip: 70.47.94.71; 1/ipv4/0: 70.47.94.71; 1/ipv6/0: fe80::20a1:89ff:feef:2145; 0/ip: 192.168.2.14; 0/ipv4/0: 192.168.2.14; 0/ipv6/0: fe80::487a:26ff:fe45:e37f
                             PV-drivers-detected ( RO): true
                                           other (MRO): platform-feature-multiprocessor-suspend: 1; has-vendor-device: 0; feature-suspend: 1; feature-poweroff: 1; feature-reboot: 1; feature-vcpu-hotplug: 1; feature-balloon: 1
                                            live ( RO): true
                      guest-metrics-last-updated ( RO): 20200401T19:18:46Z
                             can-use-hotplug-vbd ( RO): unspecified
                             can-use-hotplug-vif ( RO): unspecified
                        cooperative ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: true
                                            tags (SRW):
                                       appliance ( RW): <not in database>
                               snapshot-schedule ( RW): <not in database>
                                is-vmss-snapshot ( RO): false
                                     start-delay ( RW): 0
                                  shutdown-delay ( RW): 0
                                           order ( RW): 0
                                         version ( RO): 0
                                   generation-id ( RO):
                       hardware-platform-version ( RO): 0
                               has-vendor-device ( RW): false
                                 requires-reboot ( RO): false
                                 reference-label ( RO):
                                    bios-strings (MRO): bios-vendor: Xen; bios-version: ; system-manufacturer: Xen; system-product-name: HVM domU; system-version: ; system-serial-number: ; hp-rombios: ; oem-1: Xen; oem-2: MS_VM_CERT/SHA1/bdbeb6e0a816d43fa6d3fe8aaef04c2bad9d3e3d
          
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            @hvilches said in XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released:

            is-a-template ( RW): true

            Looks like this is the culprit...

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              I am learning so much... thank you.

              The issue probably here, the flags:

              uuid ( RO)                                  : 13a6127c-59ab-1da2-1f2c-50fae29b5775
                                          name-label ( RW): Snap with Center
                                    name-description ( RW):
                                        user-version ( RW): 1
                                       is-a-template ( RW): true
                                 is-default-template ( RW): false
                                       is-a-snapshot ( RO): true
              
              uuid ( RO)                                  : 05847d68-ae1f-c06b-c05f-aeff2ca5c6fe
                                          name-label ( RW): Snap with XOA
                                    name-description ( RW): Had to change to HVM and remove "console=hvc0" from kernel line
                                        user-version ( RW): 1
                                       is-a-template ( RW): false
                                 is-default-template ( RW): false
                                       is-a-snapshot ( RO): true
              
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                @Danp said in XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released:

                @hvilches said in XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released:

                is-a-template ( RW): true

                Looks like this is the culprit...

                You beat me to it.

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                  Also worth noting is that Center isn't adding the name-description string, whereas XOA is.

                  No... XOA is defaulting to the name-description (as expected.) and Center is asking for one, and I left it blank... No issue here.

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                    So it's clear to me (as thinking of inside Center): it is not a "template", so the snapshot is not working in the VM creation wizard. That's also the case with XOA snaps from backups, you can not create a VM from that in Center.. I always wondered about that, but as you found the flag it seems clear to me.

                    We could fix it in two ways:

                    • let Center create VMs from also from snapshot that are not "a template"
                    • don't show the menu entry in Center on the snapshot list if it is not "is-template"

                    I wonder why this flag is important, what was the reason to program Center this way 🤔

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                      @borzel

                      I would surmise, that since Center is behaving as it has for as long as I can remember, the fix should be applied to XO.

                      XO should set the template flag on a snapshot, so XenCenter and XCP-ng Center both behave as expected. The two flags I imagine are used by XenCenter and XCP-ng to build lists in the relevant dialogs that require ONLY templates, or templates and snapshots of a given VM. In this case, the dialog looks to show is-a-template (true) and is-a-snap-shot (true) and is it for the selected VM.

                      That said, I don't know enough about the implications. It may just be a flag, or there is something much deeper going on.

                      Said another way, if XO's snapshots are generated identically to Center's snapshots, then the flag is the only difference. The flag would be the only fix needed.

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                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                        We won't change a behavior on XO without having a good reason to do so. Historical reason is not a good one 😛 Happy to learn more if it's relevant to anything 🙂

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                          @olivierlambert

                          Said another way, if XO's snapshots are generated identically to Center's snapshots, then the flag is the only difference. The flag would be the only fix needed.

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                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                            "Fix needed" from your perspective, not for mine, until there's a good reason to do so 🙂

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                                @olivierlambert

                                Your response worries me. How many other features in Center, replicated in XO, are actually not the same feature? As a user, I trust that a snapshot in *Center or XO behave identically across both. They are both supposed to be using the same API. Why are they different? Over time, it would lead to distrust of XO.

                                I have just learned, for example, I cannot trust XO snapshots. And what problems might I encounter with VMs created in XO today, when I try to manage them in Center, months from now?

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                                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                  Ask @nikade how he feels about some differences 😉 We are trying to do things right, and with less "historical" reasons. Xen Orchestra is NOT a clone of XenCenter. And was never meant to be.

                                  If you are using XCP-ng, you should trust XO more than XCP-ng Center: because XO is actively maintained by a team of 6 dev working full time. XCP-ng Center is kindly maintained by @borzel and he's alone.

                                  Also, you can't tell us it's a move from us to make people prisoner about a product, Xen Orchestra is fully Open Source and free.

                                  So if you can explain the reason why we should do otherwise about snapshot, go ahead. Otherwise, I won't change a XO behavior without any other reason that's how another client is doing: this is not enough.

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                                    @olivierlambert

                                    I understand your point, but my point is just as valid: I have just learned, for example, I cannot trust XO snapshots. And what problems might I encounter with VMs created in XO today, when I try to manage them in Center, months from now?

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                                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                      Why you can't trust them?

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                                        @olivierlambert

                                        Because they are not true snapshots, as they have been defined in Center. They do not behave the same, then they are not the same. Yet they are both snapshots... What else is called the same in XO and Center but are actually not the same?

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                                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                          WTF, "not true snapshots"? Best I've heard today 😆

                                          Seriously, try to understand why on earth XCP-ng Center is doing that instead of telling it's XO's fault.

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                                            @olivierlambert

                                            It is doing that because upstream does that.

                                            A true snapshot allows me to create a VM from it. It has done so in XenCenter for as long as I can remember, and XCP-ng Center has continued that.

                                            And yes, this makes me very weary of using XO, and that I will not have a choice in the future but XO.

                                            But, I will leave now and you can decide how much it is ok to diverge from upstream.

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