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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
      last edited by

      It shouldn't buffer anything. Also increasing VM memory won't change the Node process memory. The cache is used by the system because there's RAM, but what matters in the Node memory. See https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/troubleshooting.html#memory

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        klou @olivierlambert
        last edited by

        @olivierlambert

        Again, thanks for the help with this.

        Whether or not the node process is actually using that much (I've been reading that by default, it maxes around 1.4 GB, but I just increased that with --max-old-space-size=2560), larger S3 backups/transfers are still only successful if I increase XO VM memory to > 5 GB.

        A recent backup run showed overall usage ballooned to 5.5+ GB during the backup, and then went back to ~1.4GB afterwards.

        I don't know if this is intended behavior or if you want to finetune it later, but leaving the VM at 6 GB works for me.

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
          last edited by

          It shouldn't be the case. Are you using XOA or XO from the sources?

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            klou @olivierlambert
            last edited by klou

            @olivierlambert From sources. Latest pull was last Friday, so 5.68.0/5.72.0.

            Memory usage is relatively stable around 1.4 GB (most of this morning, with --max-old-space-size=2560) , balloons during a S3 backup job, and then goes back down to 1.4 GB when transfer is complete.

            a4944018-7ad0-4b75-b540-c2a103228fc1-image.png

            edit: The above was a backup without compression.

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            • olivierlambertO Offline
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
              last edited by

              Ping @nraynaud

              Also @klou could you test it on XOA latest please?

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                klou @olivierlambert
                last edited by klou

                @olivierlambert

                OK, DL'ed/Registered XOA, bumped it to 6 GB just in case (VM only, not the node process).

                Updated to XOA latest channel, 5.51.1 (5.68.0/5.72.0). (p.s. thanks for the config backup/restore function. Needed to restart the VM or xo-server, but retained my S3 remote settings.)

                First is a pfSense VM, ~600 MB after zstd. The initial 5+GB usage is VM bootup.
                808b296f-54a7-4fd3-906b-6dd18e543210-image.png

                Next is the same VM that I used for the previous tests. ~7GB after ztsd. The job started around 9:30, where the initial ramp-up occurred (during snapshot and transfer start). Then it jumped further to 5+ GB.
                e513c294-0b05-4e73-8b5b-21f9d4af944e-image.png

                That's about as clear as I can get in the 10 minute window. It finished, dropped down to 3.5GB, and then eventually back to 1.4GB.

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                • DanpD Offline
                  Danp Pro Support Team @klou
                  last edited by

                  @klou Did you try it without increasing the memory in XOA?

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                    klou @Danp
                    last edited by

                    @Danp

                    Just did, reduced to 2GB RAM. The pfSense Backup was about the same, except the post-backup idle state was around 900MB usage.

                    The 2nd VM bombed out with an "Interrupted" transfer status (similar to a few posts above).

                    b15efd75-9f70-4089-a7c0-84e0445a3ba1-image.png

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                    • nraynaudN Offline
                      nraynaud XCP-ng Team
                      last edited by

                      @klou is it happening in a full backup? (this question will help me look at the right place in the code)

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                        klou @nraynaud
                        last edited by

                        @nraynaud

                        Yes, Full Backup, target is S3, both with or without compression.

                        (Side note: I didn't realize that Delta Backups were possible with S3. This could be significant in storage space. But I also assume that this is *nix VMs only?)

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                        • nraynaudN Offline
                          nraynaud XCP-ng Team
                          last edited by

                          @klou
                          thanks.

                          I assume all kinds of VMs can be backed up in delta. I don't have any connection between the VM type and the remote type.

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                            klou @nraynaud
                            last edited by

                            @nraynaud

                            If it helps, I'm reasonably certain that I was able to backup and upload similarly sized VMs previously without memory issues, before the 50GB+ chunking changes.

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                            • nraynaudN Offline
                              nraynaud XCP-ng Team
                              last edited by

                              On it!

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                              • nraynaudN Offline
                                nraynaud XCP-ng Team
                                last edited by

                                @klou, I see no obvious error, and I can't reproduce to really hunt it.

                                Since you're building from the sources, would you mind running a special test branch for me in a few days?

                                Right now, my working copy is tied up with something else that I would like to finish first.

                                Thanks,
                                Nicolas.

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                                  klou @nraynaud
                                  last edited by

                                  @nraynaud Sorry about dropping this for a while. If you want to pick it back up, let me know and I'll try to test changes as well.

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                                    DodgeThis
                                    last edited by DodgeThis

                                    I'm getting this errors on big vms:

                                    {
                                      "data": {
                                        "mode": "full",
                                        "reportWhen": "failure"
                                      },
                                      "id": "1605563266089",
                                      "jobId": "abfed8aa-b445-4c94-be5c-b6ed723792b8",
                                      "jobName": "amazonteste",
                                      "message": "backup",
                                      "scheduleId": "44840d13-2302-45ae-9460-53ed451183ed",
                                      "start": 1605563266089,
                                      "status": "failure",
                                      "infos": [
                                        {
                                          "data": {
                                            "vms": [
                                              "68b2bf30-8693-8419-20ab-18162d4042aa",
                                              "fbea839a-72ac-ca3d-51e5-d4248e363d72",
                                              "b24d8810-b7f5-5576-af97-6a6d5f9a8730"
                                            ]
                                          },
                                          "message": "vms"
                                        }
                                      ],
                                      "tasks": [
                                        {
                                          "data": {
                                            "type": "VM",
                                            "id": "68b2bf30-8693-8419-20ab-18162d4042aa"
                                          },
                                          "id": "1605563266118:0",
                                          "message": "Starting backup of TEST. (abfed8aa-b445-4c94-be5c-b6ed723792b8)",
                                          "start": 1605563266118,
                                          "status": "failure",
                                          "tasks": [
                                            {
                                              "id": "1605563266136",
                                              "message": "snapshot",
                                              "start": 1605563266136,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "end": 1605563271882,
                                              "result": "a700da10-a281-a124-8283-970aa7675d39"
                                            },
                                            {
                                              "id": "1605563271885",
                                              "message": "add metadata to snapshot",
                                              "start": 1605563271885,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "end": 1605563271899
                                            },
                                            {
                                              "id": "1605563272085",
                                              "message": "waiting for uptodate snapshot record",
                                              "start": 1605563272085,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "end": 1605563272287
                                            },
                                            {
                                              "id": "1605563272340",
                                              "message": "start VM export",
                                              "start": 1605563272340,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "end": 1605563272362
                                            },
                                            {
                                              "data": {
                                                "id": "7847ac06-d46f-476a-84c1-608f9302cb67",
                                                "type": "remote"
                                              },
                                              "id": "1605563272372",
                                              "message": "export",
                                              "start": 1605563272372,
                                              "status": "failure",
                                              "tasks": [
                                                {
                                                  "id": "1605563273029",
                                                  "message": "transfer",
                                                  "start": 1605563273029,
                                                  "status": "failure",
                                                  "end": 1605563715136,
                                                  "result": {
                                                    "message": "write EPIPE",
                                                    "errno": "EPIPE",
                                                    "code": "NetworkingError",
                                                    "syscall": "write",
                                                    "region": "eu-central-1",
                                                    "hostname": "s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com",
                                                    "retryable": true,
                                                    "time": "2020-11-16T21:55:08.319Z",
                                                    "name": "NetworkingError",
                                                    "stack": "Error: write EPIPE\n    at WriteWrap.onWriteComplete [as oncomplete] (internal/stream_base_commons.js:92:16)"
                                                  }
                                                }
                                              ],
                                              "end": 1605563715348,
                                              "result": {
                                                "message": "write EPIPE",
                                                "errno": "EPIPE",
                                                "code": "NetworkingError",
                                                "syscall": "write",
                                                "region": "eu-central-1",
                                                "hostname": "s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com",
                                                "retryable": true,
                                                "time": "2020-11-16T21:55:08.319Z",
                                                "name": "NetworkingError",
                                                "stack": "Error: write EPIPE\n    at WriteWrap.onWriteComplete [as oncomplete] (internal/stream_base_commons.js:92:16)"
                                              }
                                            },
                                            {
                                              "id": "1605563717917",
                                              "message": "set snapshot.other_config[xo:backup:exported]",
                                              "start": 1605563717917,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "end": 1605563721061
                                            }
                                          ],
                                          "end": 1605564045507
                                        },
                                        {
                                          "data": {
                                            "type": "VM",
                                            "id": "fbea839a-72ac-ca3d-51e5-d4248e363d72"
                                          },
                                          "id": "1605564045510",
                                          "message": "Starting backup of DESKTOPGREEN. (abfed8aa-b445-4c94-be5c-b6ed723792b8)",
                                          "start": 1605564045510,
                                          "status": "failure",
                                          "tasks": [
                                            {
                                              "id": "1605564045533",
                                              "message": "snapshot",
                                              "start": 1605564045533,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "end": 1605564047224,
                                              "result": "3e5fb1b5-c93e-f242-95a2-90757b38f727"
                                            },
                                            {
                                              "id": "1605564047229",
                                              "message": "add metadata to snapshot",
                                              "start": 1605564047229,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "end": 1605564047240
                                            },
                                            {
                                              "id": "1605564047429",
                                              "message": "waiting for uptodate snapshot record",
                                              "start": 1605564047429,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "end": 1605564047631
                                            },
                                            {
                                              "id": "1605564047634",
                                              "message": "start VM export",
                                              "start": 1605564047634,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "end": 1605564047652
                                            },
                                            {
                                              "data": {
                                                "id": "7847ac06-d46f-476a-84c1-608f9302cb67",
                                                "type": "remote"
                                              },
                                              "id": "1605564047657",
                                              "message": "export",
                                              "start": 1605564047657,
                                              "status": "failure",
                                              "tasks": [
                                                {
                                                  "id": "1605564048778",
                                                  "message": "transfer",
                                                  "start": 1605564048778,
                                                  "status": "failure",
                                                  "end": 1605564534530,
                                                  "result": {
                                                    "message": "write EPIPE",
                                                    "errno": "EPIPE",
                                                    "code": "NetworkingError",
                                                    "syscall": "write",
                                                    "region": "eu-central-1",
                                                    "hostname": "s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com",
                                                    "retryable": true,
                                                    "time": "2020-11-16T22:08:35.991Z",
                                                    "name": "NetworkingError",
                                                    "stack": "Error: write EPIPE\n    at WriteWrap.onWriteComplete [as oncomplete] (internal/stream_base_commons.js:92:16)"
                                                  }
                                                }
                                              ],
                                              "end": 1605564534693,
                                              "result": {
                                                "message": "write EPIPE",
                                                "errno": "EPIPE",
                                                "code": "NetworkingError",
                                                "syscall": "write",
                                                "region": "eu-central-1",
                                                "hostname": "s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com",
                                                "retryable": true,
                                                "time": "2020-11-16T22:08:35.991Z",
                                                "name": "NetworkingError",
                                                "stack": "Error: write EPIPE\n    at WriteWrap.onWriteComplete [as oncomplete] (internal/stream_base_commons.js:92:16)"
                                              }
                                            },
                                            {
                                              "id": "1605564535540",
                                              "message": "set snapshot.other_config[xo:backup:exported]",
                                              "start": 1605564535540,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "end": 1605564538346
                                            }
                                          ],
                                          "end": 1605571759789
                                        },
                                        {
                                          "data": {
                                            "type": "VM",
                                            "id": "b24d8810-b7f5-5576-af97-6a6d5f9a8730"
                                          },
                                          "id": "1605571759883",
                                          "message": "Starting backup of grayLog. (abfed8aa-b445-4c94-be5c-b6ed723792b8)",
                                          "start": 1605571759883,
                                          "status": "failure",
                                          "tasks": [
                                            {
                                              "id": "1605571759912",
                                              "message": "snapshot",
                                              "start": 1605571759912,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "end": 1605571773047,
                                              "result": "600bf528-8c1d-5035-1876-615e1dd89fea"
                                            },
                                            {
                                              "id": "1605571773051",
                                              "message": "add metadata to snapshot",
                                              "start": 1605571773051,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "end": 1605571773081
                                            },
                                            {
                                              "id": "1605571773391",
                                              "message": "waiting for uptodate snapshot record",
                                              "start": 1605571773391,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "end": 1605571773601
                                            },
                                            {
                                              "id": "1605571773603",
                                              "message": "start VM export",
                                              "start": 1605571773603,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "end": 1605571773687
                                            },
                                            {
                                              "data": {
                                                "id": "7847ac06-d46f-476a-84c1-608f9302cb67",
                                                "type": "remote"
                                              },
                                              "id": "1605571773719",
                                              "message": "export",
                                              "start": 1605571773719,
                                              "status": "failure",
                                              "tasks": [
                                                {
                                                  "id": "1605571774218",
                                                  "message": "transfer",
                                                  "start": 1605571774218,
                                                  "status": "failure",
                                                  "end": 1605572239807,
                                                  "result": {
                                                    "message": "write EPIPE",
                                                    "errno": "EPIPE",
                                                    "code": "NetworkingError",
                                                    "syscall": "write",
                                                    "region": "eu-central-1",
                                                    "hostname": "s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com",
                                                    "retryable": true,
                                                    "time": "2020-11-17T00:17:01.143Z",
                                                    "name": "NetworkingError",
                                                    "stack": "Error: write EPIPE\n    at WriteWrap.onWriteComplete [as oncomplete] (internal/stream_base_commons.js:92:16)"
                                                  }
                                                }
                                              ],
                                              "end": 1605572239942,
                                              "result": {
                                                "message": "write EPIPE",
                                                "errno": "EPIPE",
                                                "code": "NetworkingError",
                                                "syscall": "write",
                                                "region": "eu-central-1",
                                                "hostname": "s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com",
                                                "retryable": true,
                                                "time": "2020-11-17T00:17:01.143Z",
                                                "name": "NetworkingError",
                                                "stack": "Error: write EPIPE\n    at WriteWrap.onWriteComplete [as oncomplete] (internal/stream_base_commons.js:92:16)"
                                              }
                                            },
                                            {
                                              "id": "1605572242195",
                                              "message": "set snapshot.other_config[xo:backup:exported]",
                                              "start": 1605572242195,
                                              "status": "success",
                                              "end": 1605572246834
                                            }
                                          ],
                                          "end": 1605572705448
                                        }
                                      ],
                                      "end": 1605572705499
                                    }
                                    

                                    also delta backup have the same problem

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                                      cdbessig
                                      last edited by

                                      @nraynaud on my env I received the following error:

                                      The request signature we calculated does not match the signature you provided. Check your key and signing method.
                                      
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                                      • nraynaudN Offline
                                        nraynaud XCP-ng Team @cdbessig
                                        last edited by

                                        @cdbessig I fixed an error like that in version 5.51.1 (2020-10-14), are you using a version more recent than that?

                                        Nicolas.

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                                          cdbessig @nraynaud
                                          last edited by

                                          @nraynaud xo-server 5.66.1 xo-web 5.69.0

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                                          • DanpD Offline
                                            Danp Pro Support Team @cdbessig
                                            last edited by

                                            @cdbessig That's release is from 2020-09-04, so you should upgrade to take advantage of the latest fixes.

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