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    • olivierlambertO Offline
      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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      What matters (in terms of bottleneck) is the XAPI itself. If you backup from one single pool at this speed, I can only assume you are already doing NBD backups, right? (because VHD export can't go at this speed)

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        KPS Top contributor @olivierlambert
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        @olivierlambert
        Yes, I am using NBD.
        The big problem with NBD is, that there is currently no visibility about the backup-progress, as there is no "task". I know, that this is a big point for XO7, but the same is the case for "mirror-jobs".

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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          XO tasks are currently here to solve this. It's still early and not entirely displayed, but this will come soon 🙂

          Also, 250-280MiB/s is already a great speed. What's your concurrency? Are you using NBD insecure or secure?

          We might also have something else for you to test at some point, using a "plugin" inside the host.

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            KPS Top contributor @olivierlambert
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            @olivierlambert
            "Concurrency" is my next step. I first wanted to find a good setup for "singe-stream-performance", but I am always happy to test new approaches!
            Plugin sounds good. Other backup-providers are taking that way, too.

            250MiB/s is good for small VMs, but not for big ones. My "non-XCP-setup" can do backups at 8-9 GiB/s

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              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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              This might be dangerous for your SR in real life scenario: what if a backup is taking all the SR resources? We have to find a balance 🙂 But anyway, you can always restrict the backup speed in XO, so we'll continue to find ways to speed things up!

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              • planedropP Offline
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                I'm using SMB not NFS but the max I see is around 100MiB/s, so this is REALLY good speeds (I'm also on 10GbE across the board and on a NAS that can easily take in 2000MiB/s), very impressive speeds here.

                Do you have any concurrency configured though? I believe the default is 2 so that may be why you're seeing close to 2x what I am (I have it set to 1, don't really need more than that so I like to decrease overall load).

                Also on pretty beefy hosts.

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                  rjt @planedrop
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                  @planedrop what concurrency configuration settings are you referring to?

                  • XOA config?

                  • host network card config?

                  • SMB concurrency?

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                    rjt @olivierlambert
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                    @olivierlambert Amazon must have patched their Xen / XAPI to have much higher speeds?

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                      planedrop Top contributor @rjt
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                      @rjt The setting for backup concurrency within the XOA backup settings.

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                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO @rjt
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                        @rjt AWS isn't using XAPI. Only XenServer and XCP-ng are using XAPI. It's mostly unrelated to Xen performance (at least not at this point).

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                          danoontje
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                          I'm backing up delta's from 5 pools to a lustre filesystem with a concurrency of 10.
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                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                            last edited by olivierlambert

                            Not bad 🙂 More than 2Gbit/s!

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                            • florentF Offline
                              florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @KPS
                              last edited by florent

                              @KPS Hi,
                              that is some nice performance, I guess the hardware under is beefy++

                              Did you try if NBD increase the speed ?
                              You need to enable NBD on the backup network, and then enable it in the delta backup :
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                              We have a few tasks in the pipeline to increase performance, leveraging our knowledge of both XCP and XO

                              Florent

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