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    • olivierlambertO
      olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
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      You mean in the VM view/snapshot tab? You are seeing the VM snapshot, not the VDI snapshot, so I wonder if this VM snapshot can be reverted while being CBT metadata only, and if not, we must make it clear in the UI, yes!

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        Delgado
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        I enabled cbt on the disks and nbd + cbt in my delta backup and so far so good. I plan on letting another backup run over night. I also ran a full backup and it removed the snapshot like it's supposed to.

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          rtjdamen @olivierlambert
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          @olivierlambert yes indeed, this is currently visible like a normal snapshot, i think it should be visible like a metadata only snapshot.

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            rtjdamen
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            @florent i have been watching the backup process and in the end i only seed vdi.destroy happening nog vdi.data_destroy is this correct? are we handling this last step correct or do we remain data on the snapshot at this time?

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            • florentF
              florent Vates πŸͺ XO Team
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              dataDestroy will be enable-able (not sure if it's really a word) today, in he meantime, the

              Please note that the metadata snapshot won't be visible in the UI since it's not a VM Snapshot, but only the metadata of the vdi snapshots

              latest commits in the fix_cbt branch add an additionnal check on dom0 connect, more error handling

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                rtjdamen @florent
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                @florent ok so currently the data remains? When do u think this addition is ready for testing? I am interested as we saw some issues with this on nfs and i am curious if it will make a difference with this code.

                @olivierlambert i now understand there is in general no difference on coalesce as long as the data destroy is not done. So u were right on that part and it’s safe pushing it this way!

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                • olivierlambertO
                  olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
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                  Yes, that's why we'll be able to offer a safe route for people not using the data destroy but leave people who want to explore it to do so in opt in πŸ™‚

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                  • florentF
                    florent Vates πŸͺ XO Team @rtjdamen
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                    @rtjdamen it's still fresh, but on the other hand, the worse that can happen is falling back to a full backup. So for now I would not use it on the bigger VM ( multi terabytes )
                    We are sure that it will be a game changer on thick provisioning ( because snapshot cost the full virtual size) or on fast changing VM , where coalescing an older snapshot is a major hurdle

                    If everything goes well it will be on stable by the end of july, and we'll probably enable it by default on new backup in the near future

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                    • Tristis OrisT
                      Tristis Oris Top contributor
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                      can't commit, too small for ticket.

                      typo

                      preferNbdInformation:
                          'A network accessible by XO or the proxy must have NBD enabled,. Storage must support Change Block Tracking (CBT) to ue it in a backup',
                      

                      enabled,.
                      to ue

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                        • Tristis OrisT
                          Tristis Oris Top contributor
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                          updated to fix_cbt branch.

                          CR NBD backup works.
                          Delta NBD backup works.
                          just once, so we can't be sure yet.

                          No broken tasks is generated.

                          Still confused why CBT toggle is enabled on some VMs.
                          2 similars vms on same pool, same storage, same ubuntu version. One is enabled automaticaly, other is not.

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                            rtjdamen @florent
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                            @florent i did some testing with the data_destroy branch on my lab, it seems to work as required, indeed the snapshot is hidden when it is cbt only.

                            What i am not shure is correct, when the data destroy action is done, i would expect a snapshot is showing up for coalesce but it does not. Is it too small, and quick removed so it will not be visible in XOA? on larger vms with our production i can see these snapshots showing for coalesce? Or when you do vdi.data_destroy will it try to coalesce directly without garbage collection afterwards?

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                              rtjdamen @florent
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                              @florent what does happen when we upgrade to this version by the end of july, we do now use NDB without cbt on most backups. will all need to run a full or does it 'convert' the method to the cbt situation? i asume as the checkbox for data destroy will be disabled in general it will not change that much to the backup at day one as long as u not switch to the data destroy option?

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                              • olivierlambertO
                                olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
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                                The transition to CBT should be done smoothly and without any manual intervention. @florent will provide more details on how πŸ™‚

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                                  rtjdamen
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                                  All tests with 2 vms were so far succesfull, no issues found in our lab. Good job guys!

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                                    robyt @olivierlambert
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                                    @olivierlambert how many time for us with precompiled XOA?

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                                    • olivierlambertO
                                      olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
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                                      Tomorrow πŸ™‚

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                                        rtjdamen @olivierlambert
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                                        @olivierlambert sounds good!

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                                          Delgado
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                                          Things are looking good on my end as well.

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                                            Andrew Top contributor @olivierlambert
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                                            @olivierlambert Looks like it's back to single threaded bottlenecks...

                                            I see a lot of single core 100% utilization on the XO VM.

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