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    "Block migraton" option on the VM´s Advanced tab

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      abudef
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      Hi, what exactly is the purpose of the "Block migration" setting on the Advanced tab of the VM configuration?

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      I tried to look it up in the documentation at https://docs.xen-orchestra.com, but I had no luck finding it there. Thank you in advance for the explanation.

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        manilx @abudef
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        @abudef You can't migrate VM's between hosts and Disks between storages.

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          abudef @manilx
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          @manilx Thanks, how simple! I confused myself by thinking of "Block" as a noun, not a verb imperative, being influenced by the NBD term 🙂

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            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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            Ah yes I see, I wonder if we could make it more clear.

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              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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              Pinging @thomas-dkmt

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                Andrew Top contributor @olivierlambert
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                @abudef @olivierlambert @thomas-dkmt I agree. I read block the same way... how about disable or prevent. (French? empêcher)

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                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                  Disable or prevent are indeed a lot better.

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                    DustinB
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                    If I had my choice, Prevent Migration is more understandable.

                    Disable Migration, while it means the same thing, doesn't naturally come out of the English language.

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                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                      Food for thoughts @thomas-dkmt

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                        thomas-dkmt Vates 🪐 Docs & Knowledge Team @olivierlambert
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                        @olivierlambert @DustinB Thanks! It's always helpful to have a native speaker's perspective.

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                          DustinB @thomas-dkmt
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                          @thomas-dkmt said in "Block migraton" option on the VM´s Advanced tab:

                          @olivierlambert @DustinB Thanks! It's always helpful to have a native speaker's perspective.

                          Happy to help, worth noting that if a setting like this is enabled on a given VM, there should also be some sort of visual indication on the home screen of XO to annotate that these VMs won't move unless this is disabled.

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                            abudef @DustinB
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                            Done
                            https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/commit/dba08f0fac866c76700a3785a178743770159883

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                            feat(xo-web/vm): rename 'block migration' to 'disable migration' (#8492)
                            
                            Introduced by 11a801c
                            Related to #8222
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                              DustinB @abudef
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                              @abudef The English translation is meant to be "Prevent Migration".

                              I think some lines were crossed ha.

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                                john.c @DustinB
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                                @DustinB said in "Block migraton" option on the VM´s Advanced tab:

                                @abudef The English translation is meant to be "Prevent Migration".

                                I think some lines were crossed ha.

                                I agree it really needs to actually read "Prevent Migration", that will then make it pretty clear.

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                                  DustinB
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                                  Looks to be correct on the current release of XO from Source and reads as "Prevent Migration"

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                                    panzersrmm
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                                    Hi! Is there a VM parameter that saves this "Block migration" UI button?

                                    I wasn't able to identify which one it is with command:

                                    xe vm-param-list uuid=<VMuuid>
                                    

                                    Thank you!

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                                      I never remember the exact option myself, we should document it @thomas-dkmt

                                      In the meantime, @Team-XAPI-Network can give the answer 🙂

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                                        andriy.sultanov Vates 🪐 XAPI & Network Team @panzersrmm
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                                        @panzersrmm

                                        @panzersrmm said in "Block migraton" option on the VM´s Advanced tab:

                                        Hi! Is there a VM parameter that saves this "Block migration" UI button?

                                        I wasn't able to identify which one it is with command:

                                        xe vm-param-list uuid=<VMuuid>
                                        

                                        Thank you!

                                        How do you mean? Is the XO option not persistent?

                                        XO sets these parameters:

                                        # xe vm-list uuid=$UUID params=blocked-operations
                                        blocked-operations (MRW)    : pool_migrate: true; migrate_send: true
                                        

                                        Which you can set like this yourself:

                                        # xe vm-param-set uuid=$UUID blocked-operations:migrate_send=true
                                        # xe vm-param-set uuid=$UUID blocked-operations:pool_migrate=true
                                        
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                                          It is persistent but people usually want to modify it manually in some cases 🙂 Thanks @andriy.sultanov !

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                                            panzersrmm @andriy.sultanov
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                                            @andriy.sultanov said in "Block migraton" option on the VM´s Advanced tab:

                                            @panzersrmm

                                            @panzersrmm said in "Block migraton" option on the VM´s Advanced tab:

                                            Hi! Is there a VM parameter that saves this "Block migration" UI button?

                                            I wasn't able to identify which one it is with command:

                                            xe vm-param-list uuid=<VMuuid>
                                            

                                            Thank you!

                                            How do you mean? Is the XO option not persistent?

                                            XO sets these parameters:

                                            # xe vm-list uuid=$UUID params=blocked-operations
                                            blocked-operations (MRW)    : pool_migrate: true; migrate_send: true
                                            

                                            Which you can set like this yourself:

                                            # xe vm-param-set uuid=$UUID blocked-operations:migrate_send=true
                                            # xe vm-param-set uuid=$UUID blocked-operations:pool_migrate=true
                                            

                                            @andriy.sultanov Thank you for your answer! That's what I was looking for. I was looking directly at the VM parameters, with

                                            xe vm-param-list uuid=$UUID
                                            

                                            and I was directly searching for "blocked_migration". Now I know what to look for.

                                            @olivierlambert Thank you for pinging the appropriate team for the answer.

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