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    • paramazoP Offline
      paramazo @olivierlambert
      last edited by paramazo

      @olivierlambert I try to show it with some screenshots on same VM with the same screen

      This is XO5:
      5fdfb5e6-cf67-4e19-bf94-bcd85dddcc5b-image.jpeg

      This is XO6:
      afe0fff8-4ab1-4bed-855e-e65f2b24ff92-image.jpeg

      can you spot the difference? it seems some kind of scaling is happening here... it looks blurred. What do you think?

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        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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        Let me ping @Team-XO-Frontend

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          jr-m4
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          Sometimes "# Disk Space" for VMs reports 0 in the central pane. But the assigned space is shown in the details (right) pane.

          This is the same under Pool and Host-level. Sometimes it is shown, but after a reload of the page, it resets back to 0.

          Marked the examples in red.

          61896b32-7dcc-4499-8bd5-aa9ddf5890a8-image.jpeg

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            ph7
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            I removed 1 host from the pool and the local storage from that host didn't get purged
            Screenshot 2026-04-21 at 23-20-09 Xen Orchestra.png

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              ph7 @ph7
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              just found out that it's the same on XO5

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              • escape222E Offline
                escape222
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                Slow booting on Debian 13 VM created from a template

                I recently tried cloning a VM from a template (created from a full install of Debian 13). What was noticed was that the system takes forever to boot when the VM is created from XO-6. The issue does not happen in XO-5. The VM seems to hang at the TianoCore boot screen Hang.png.

                What I noticed is that when the VM is cloned with XO-6 the boot order somehow changes to Network boot as the first option

                BootOrder.png

                This does not happen (change of boot order) if the VM is cloned from XO-5 and there is no boot delay. The boot process seems to wait for more than 2 minutes before it fails network boot and then proceeds normally to boot from the Hard drive
                Hang2.png

                Thanks

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                • olivierlambertO Online
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                  last edited by

                  Thank you for the great feedback @escape222

                  Likely a bug indeed 🙂

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                    Greg_E @escape222
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                    @escape222

                    I assume you made it UEFI? I had the same problem with XO-lite about a year ago. If I created it as bios boot it worked as expected.

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                      escape222 @Greg_E
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                      @Greg_E Yes it is UEFI

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                        Greg_E @escape222
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                        @escape222

                        Maybe try again as a BIOS boot VM, but the times for BIOS boot are nearing an end, so many things have climbed on UEFI only these days that a problem like this is going to be hard to ignore.

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                          MajorP93 @Greg_E
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                          I noticed the same: for VMs that use UEFI the boot time is greatly increased compared to BIOS mode.

                          I noticed that VMs that have UEFI enabled show some "installing xen timer" and "spinlock" events in kernel log:

                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: Xen: using vcpuop timer interface
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: installing Xen timer for CPU 0
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: smpboot: CPU0: AMD EPYC 7702P 64-Core Processor (family: 0x17, model: 0x31, stepping: 0x0)
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: cpu 0 spinlock event irq 52
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: Performance Events: PMU not available due to virtualization, using software events only.
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: signal: max sigframe size: 1776
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: rcu: Hierarchical SRCU implementation.
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: rcu:         Max phase no-delay instances is 1000.
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: Timer migration: 1 hierarchy levels; 8 children per group; 1 crossnode level
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: NMI watchdog: Perf NMI watchdog permanently disabled
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: smp: Bringing up secondary CPUs ...
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: installing Xen timer for CPU 1
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: smpboot: x86: Booting SMP configuration:
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: .... node  #0, CPUs:      #1
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: installing Xen timer for CPU 2
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel:  #2
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: installing Xen timer for CPU 3
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel:  #3
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: installing Xen timer for CPU 4
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel:  #4
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: installing Xen timer for CPU 5
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel:  #5
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: installing Xen timer for CPU 6
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel:  #6
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: installing Xen timer for CPU 7
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel:  #7
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: cpu 1 spinlock event irq 81
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: cpu 2 spinlock event irq 82
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: cpu 3 spinlock event irq 83
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: cpu 4 spinlock event irq 84
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: cpu 5 spinlock event irq 85
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: cpu 6 spinlock event irq 86
                          Apr 27 11:35:06 xo01 kernel: cpu 7 spinlock event irq 87
                          

                          Those events seem to be what is slowing down boot.
                          Ever since I started using XCP-ng I was able to observe this behavior.
                          Once the VM is fully booted performance seems to be normal.
                          Maybe worth investigating at some point.

                          Best regards

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                            Greg_E @MajorP93
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                            @MajorP93

                            Before the LTS release UEFI worked extremely well, something kind of went sideways when it hit release. I only have a single UEFI VM, it was created under version 8.2 and does not give me trouble.

                            I guess I need to get my lab back up, had a UPS fail and shut everything off a few days ago. Then I need to test UEFI VMs and see what I can see. But back when it went LTS I reinstalled from scratch and tried to do everything through XO-lite to get the first VM running and found that Debian 13 or Windows Server 2022 would not boot if I created them with UEFI. Since then I haven't tested this again.

                            I'm also tempted to just move my whole lab to version 9, waiting for the next ISO to land and I may do this. I can run real testing workloads on Harvester for the time being and maybe play around migrating back and forth between both systems.

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                              probain @probain
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                              probain said:

                              Unfortunately, commit https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/pull/9727 doesn't fix this issue of the VM-console reloading constantly. With loss of focus as a result. At least not on XO6..

                              pierre-briffaux opened this pull request in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

                              closed fix(vm/console): fix VNC reconnection causing focus loss #9727

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                                Baronvaile
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                                After upgrading from 6.3.3 to the new 6.4.0 release, the dashboard page for xoa 6 is just spinning. v5 seem unaffected after the update. I have restarted the xoa vm. The xoa-updated show all up to date and xoa check shows healthy.
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                                  ph7 @Baronvaile
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                                  @Baronvaile
                                  Have You tested wit CTRL-F5 to update Your browser

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                                    Baronvaile @ph7
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                                    @ph7 I have. Also same condition in Chrome and Edge.

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                                      acebmxer @Baronvaile
                                      last edited by acebmxer

                                      @Baronvaile

                                      Just to confirm this is with actual XOA and not XO from sources? Have you rebooted XO? Check logs? sudo journalctl -u xo-server -n 50

                                      Edit - Just updated my home lab XOA

                                      Screenshot 2026-04-30 103224.png

                                      Screenshot 2026-04-30 103426.png

                                      I see same thing... XO from sources no issues. Work XOA no issues...
                                      Screenshot 2026-04-30 103451.png

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                                        ph7 @Baronvaile
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                                        @Baronvaile
                                        Started my 6.4.0 test VM and got the same
                                        Screenshot 2026-04-30 at 16-27-51 Xen Orchestra.png

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                                          ph7 @ph7
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                                          My is XOA

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                                            acebmxer @ph7
                                            last edited by acebmxer

                                            I am seeing these errors....

                                            [09:45 30] xoa@xoa:~$ sudo journalctl -u xo-server -p warning --no-pager
                                            Mar 13 13:13:52 xoa systemd[1]: xo-server.service: State 'stop-sigterm' timed out. Killing.
                                            Mar 13 13:13:52 xoa systemd[1]: xo-server.service: Main process exited, code=killed, status=9/KILL
                                            Mar 13 13:13:52 xoa systemd[1]: xo-server.service: Failed with result 'timeout'.
                                            -- Boot 8398ef48e4e94d27b11bfc3300a68727 --
                                            Apr 25 11:37:14 xoa systemd[1]: xo-server.service: State 'stop-sigterm' timed out. Killing.
                                            Apr 25 11:37:14 xoa systemd[1]: xo-server.service: Main process exited, code=killed, status=9/KILL
                                            Apr 25 11:37:14 xoa systemd[1]: xo-server.service: Failed with result 'timeout'.
                                            -- Boot 9a9a6f09bdea43729cbe3aa74acc7a3b --
                                            Apr 30 09:36:06 xoa systemd[1]: xo-server.service: State 'stop-sigterm' timed out. Killing.
                                            Apr 30 09:36:06 xoa systemd[1]: xo-server.service: Main process exited, code=killed, status=9/KILL
                                            Apr 30 09:36:06 xoa systemd[1]: xo-server.service: Failed with result 'timeout'.
                                            [09:45 30] xoa@xoa:~$ sudo journalctl -u xo-server -f
                                            Apr 30 09:43:14 xoa xo-server[594]:       at Function.emit (node:events:519:28)
                                            Apr 30 09:43:14 xoa xo-server[594]:       at Function.emit (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/@xen-orchestra/log/configure.js:52:17)
                                            Apr 30 09:43:14 xoa xo-server[594]:       at Server.<anonymous> (file:///usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/src/index.mjs:977:13)
                                            Apr 30 09:43:14 xoa xo-server[594]:       at Server.emit (node:events:531:35)
                                            Apr 30 09:43:14 xoa xo-server[594]:       at Server.patchedEmit [as emit] (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/node_modules/@xen-orchestra/log/configure.js:52:17)
                                            Apr 30 09:43:14 xoa xo-server[594]:       at onParserExecuteCommon (node:_http_server:977:14)
                                            Apr 30 09:43:14 xoa xo-server[594]:       at onParserExecute (node:_http_server:881:3) {
                                            Apr 30 09:43:14 xoa xo-server[594]:     code: 'DEP0060'
                                            Apr 30 09:43:14 xoa xo-server[594]:   }
                                            Apr 30 09:43:14 xoa xo-server[594]: }
                                            
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