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      MajorP93 @Pilow
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      @Pilow said in backup mail report says INTERRUPTED but it's not ?:

      @MajorP93 you say to have 8GB Ram on XO, but it OOMkills at 5Gb Used RAM.

      did you do those additionnal steps in your XO Config ?

      You can increase the memory allocated to the XOA VM (from 2GB to 4GB or 8GB).
      Note that simply increasing the RAM for the VM is not enough.
      You must also edit the service file (/etc/systemd/system/xo-server.service) 
      to increase the memory allocated to the xo-server process itself.
      
      You should leave ~512MB for the debian OS itself. Meaning if your VM has 4096MB total RAM, you should use 3584 for the memory value below.
      
      - ExecStart=/usr/local/bin/xo-server
      + ExecStart=/usr/local/bin/node --max-old-space-size=3584 /usr/local/bin/xo-server
      The last step is to refresh and restart the service:
      
      $ systemctl daemon-reload
      $ systemctl restart xo-server
      

      Interesting!
      I did not know that it is recommended to set "--max-old-space-size=" as a startup parameter for Node JS with the result of (total system ram - 512MB).
      I added that, restarted XO and my backup job.

      I will test if that gives my backup jobs more stability.
      Thank you very much for taking the time and recommending the parameter.

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      • olivierlambertO Offline
        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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        can you remind me the Node version you have, that is exhibiting the problem?

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          MajorP93 @olivierlambert
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          @olivierlambert Right now I am using Node JS version 20 as I saw that XOA uses that version aswell. I thought it might be best to use all dependencies at the versions that XOA uses.

          I was having the issue with backup job "interrupted" status on Node JS 24 aswell as documented in this thread.

          Actually since I downgraded to Node 20 total system RAM usage seems to have decreased by a fair bit which can be seen by comparing the 2 screenshots that I posted in this thread. On first screenshot I was using Node 24 und second screenshot Node 20.
          Despite that the issue re-occurred after a few days of XO running.

          I hope that --max-old-space-size Node parameter as suggested by @pilow solves my issue.
          I will report back.

          Best regards

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          • olivierlambertO Offline
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
            last edited by

            Okay weird, so having a very different RAM usage with Node 24 should be checked when we'll update XOA Node version.

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              Pilow @MajorP93
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              @MajorP93 this was found in the troubleshooting section of the documentation when i tried to optimise my xoa/xoproxies deployments

              https://docs.xen-orchestra.com/troubleshooting#memory

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                Pilow @Pilow
                last edited by

                not looking better today. still not crashed.
                62622e51-a19c-43e3-b499-a6fde4124eb1-{093F1189-D681-4A45-B0CA-FC72B6E08E9B}.png
                but before the patches at 48h max, i topped the 8Gb and got the OOM killed process.

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                  Pilow @Pilow
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                  before disruption, I prefer to patch/reboot my XOA
                  We got to the limit
                  75ebf8f1-42a3-41a4-8179-bcad56b507fb-{BD0DCE60-47E3-4386-AB7E-1BC85D08DE1F}.png
                  505f9643-9c4b-4c22-982a-f48ed42798c4-{075C1E52-0AF8-495A-B8E5-372F0C4953E4}.png

                  still some memory leak somewhere guys !

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                    florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Pilow
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                    @Pilow we are still working on it, but for now we didn't find a solution

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                      MajorP93 @florent
                      last edited by MajorP93

                      After implementing the --max-old-space-size Node parameter as recommended by @pilow it took longer time for the VM to hit the issue.
                      Still: backups went into interrupted status.
                      Memory leak seems to be still there.
                      With each subsequent backup run the memory usage rises and rises. After backup run the memory usage does not fully go back to "normal".

                      6ad321a1-2e39-4bca-9285-062e502a17b2-grafik.png

                      After adding the node parameter there was no heap size error on Node anymore since the heap size got increased. The system went into various OOM errors in kernel log (dmesg) despite not all RAM (8GB) being used.

                      This is what htop looks like with 3 backup jobs running:
                      68db77eb-26f2-4dbb-b1db-2273984eabb3-grafik.png

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                        acebmxer
                        last edited by acebmxer

                        While working last night i noticed one of my backups/pools did this. Got the email that it was interupted but when i looked the tasks were still running and moving data it untill it porcess all vms in that backup job.

                        Edit - note my backup job was run via proxy on the specific pool/job.

                        2026-02-19T03_00_00.028Z - backup NG.txt

                        Edit 2 - homelab same last backup was interupted.

                        2026-02-19T05_00_00.011Z - backup NG.txt

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                          MajorP93 @acebmxer
                          last edited by MajorP93

                          I wonder if this PR https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/pull/9506 aims to solve the issue that was discussed in this thread.
                          To me it looks like it's the case as the issue seems to be related to RAM used by backup jobs not being freed correctly and the PR seems to add some garbage collection to backup jobs.
                          I hope that it will fix the issue and if needed I can test a branch.

                          b-Nollet opened this pull request in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

                          closed Backup tasks gc #9506

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                            Bastien Nollet Vates 🪐 XO Team @MajorP93
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                            Hi @MajorP93,

                            This PR is only about changing the way we delete old logs (linked to a bigger work of making backups use XO tasks instead of their own task system), it won't fix the issue discussed in this topic.

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                              MajorP93 @Bastien Nollet
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                              Hi @Bastien-Nollet,

                              oh okay, thanks for clarifying!

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                                flakpyro @MajorP93
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                                I have been having the same issue and have been watching it for the last couple weeks. Initially my XOA only had 8GB of ram assigned, i have bumped it up to 16 to try an alleviate the issue. Seems to be some sort of memory leak. This is the official XO Appliance too not XO CE.

                                I changed the systemd file to make use of the extra memory as per the docs,

                                ExecStart=/usr/local/bin/node --max-old-space-size=12288 /usr/local/bin/xo-server
                                

                                It seems that over time it will just consume all of its memory until it crashes and restarts no matter how much i assign.

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                                  MajorP93 @flakpyro
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                                  During the past month my backups failed (status interrupted) 1-2 times per week due to this memory leak.
                                  When increasing heap size (node old space size) it takes longer but the backup fails when RAM usage eventually hits 100%.
                                  I guess I’ll go with @Pilow ‘s workaround for now and create a cronjob for rebooting XO VM right before backups start.

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                                  • olivierlambertO Offline
                                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                    All of you are using a Node 24 LTS version? Do you still have the issue with Node 20 or Node 22?

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                                      MajorP93 @olivierlambert
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                                      @olivierlambert No.
                                      I reverted to Node 20 as previously mentioned.
                                      I was using Node 24 before but reverted to Node 20 as I hoped it would "fix" the issue.
                                      Using Node 20 it takes longer for these issues to arise but in the end they arise.

                                      3 of the users in this thread that encounter the issue said that they are using XOA.
                                      As XOA also uses Node 20, I think most people that reported this issue actually use Node 20.

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                                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                        Thanks for the recap!

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                                          flakpyro @olivierlambert
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                                          @olivierlambert Using the prebuilt XOA appliance which reports:

                                          [08:39 23] xoa@xoa:~$ node  --version
                                          v20.18.3
                                          
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                                            john.c @flakpyro
                                            last edited by john.c

                                            @flakpyro said in backup mail report says INTERRUPTED but it's not ?:

                                            @olivierlambert Using the prebuilt XOA appliance which reports:

                                            [08:39 23] xoa@xoa:~$ node  --version
                                            v20.18.3
                                            

                                            @majorp93 @pilow Can you please capture some heap snapshots from during backup runs of XOA via NodeJS?

                                            Then compare them to each other, they need to be in the following order:-

                                            1. Snapshot before backup
                                            2. Snapshot following first backup
                                            3. Snapshot following second backup
                                            4. Snapshot following third backup
                                            5. Snapshot following subsequent backups to get to Node.js OOM (or as close as you’re willing to risk)

                                            These will require that XOA (or XOCE) is started with Node.js heap snapshots enabled. Then open in a Chromium based browser the following url:-
                                            chrome://inspect

                                            The above URL will require using the browser’s DevTools features!

                                            Another option is to integrate and enable use of Clinic.js (clinic heapprofiler), or configure node to use node-heapdump when it reaches a threshold amount.

                                            Once your got those heap dumps your looking for the following:-

                                            • Object types that grow massively between the snapshots.
                                            • Large arrays or maps of backup-related objects (VMs, snapshots, jobs, tasks, etc.).
                                            • Retained objects whose “retainers” point to long-lived structures (global, caches, singletons).

                                            These will likely help to pin down what and where in the backup code, the memory leak is located.

                                            Once have these a heap snapshot diff showing which object type (or types) growing by a stated size per backup will finally help the Vates developers fix this issue.

                                            @florent I left the above for the original reporters of the memory leak issue, and/or yourselves.

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