XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released
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I see what you're saying... The list in the dialog shows under Templates, but this is the dialog that you get.
If you Snapshot using Center, you can right-click and create a new VM from the snapshot.
If you Snapshot using XOA, when you go to Center, you cannot create a VM from the snapshot.
There appears to be no difference between the two, until you try to create a VM in Center.
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Try to get all object info so we can compare what XCP-ng Center is doing vs XO.
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Help me get that for you
What/where can I get "all object info"?
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xe vm-param-listfor a VM -
@Danp said in XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released:
All I get is the standard new VM "wizard' where you select a template on the first screen.
YES... You're seeing the problem. That list normally contains the Snapshot and its pre-selected so all you do is click next.
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@olivierlambert
Thank you...This is the snap with Center
xe vm-param-list uuid=13a6127c-59ab-1da2-1f2c-50fae29b5775 uuid ( RO) : 13a6127c-59ab-1da2-1f2c-50fae29b5775 name-label ( RW): Snap with Center name-description ( RW): user-version ( RW): 1 is-a-template ( RW): true is-default-template ( RW): false is-a-snapshot ( RO): true snapshot-of ( RO): ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713 snapshots ( RO): snapshot-time ( RO): 20200401T20:09:50Z snapshot-info ( RO): disk-snapshot-type: crash_consistent; power-state-at-snapshot: Running parent ( RO): 6fe18ed9-833b-e157-8e7d-cd90e42c0787 children ( RO): ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713 is-control-domain ( RO): false power-state ( RO): halted memory-actual ( RO): 805302272 memory-target ( RO): 0 memory-overhead ( RO): 10485760 memory-static-max ( RW): 805306368 memory-dynamic-max ( RW): 805306368 memory-dynamic-min ( RW): 536870912 memory-static-min ( RW): 536870912 suspend-VDI-uuid ( RW): <not in database> suspend-SR-uuid ( RW): <not in database> VCPUs-params (MRW): weight: 256 VCPUs-max ( RW): 2 VCPUs-at-startup ( RW): 2 actions-after-shutdown ( RW): Destroy actions-after-reboot ( RW): Restart actions-after-crash ( RW): Restart console-uuids (SRO): hvm ( RO): true platform (MRW): timeoffset: 0; viridian: false; device-model: qemu-upstream-compat; nx: true; acpi: 1; apic: true; pae: true; cores-per-socket: 1 allowed-operations (SRO): destroy; export; revert; clone; copy current-operations (SRO): blocked-operations (MRW): allowed-VBD-devices (SRO): 1; 2; 4; 5; 6; 7; 8; 9; 10; 11; 12; 13; 14; 15; 16; 17; 18; 19; 20; 21; 22; 23; 24; 25; 26; 27; 28; 29; 30; 31; 32; 33; 34; 35; 36; 37; 38; 39; 40; 41; 42; 43; 44; 45; 46; 47; 48; 49; 50; 51; 52; 53; 54; 55; 56; 57; 58; 59; 60; 61; 62; 63; 64; 65; 66; 67; 68; 69; 70; 71; 72; 73; 74; 75; 76; 77; 78; 79; 80; 81; 82; 83; 84; 85; 86; 87; 88; 89; 90; 91; 92; 93; 94; 95; 96; 97; 98; 99; 100; 101; 102; 103; 104; 105; 106; 107; 108; 109; 110; 111; 112; 113; 114; 115; 116; 117; 118; 119; 120; 121; 122; 123; 124; 125; 126; 127; 128; 129; 130; 131; 132; 133; 134; 135; 136; 137; 138; 139; 140; 141; 142; 143; 144; 145; 146; 147; 148; 149; 150; 151; 152; 153; 154; 155; 156; 157; 158; 159; 160; 161; 162; 163; 164; 165; 166; 167; 168; 169; 170; 171; 172; 173; 174; 175; 176; 177; 178; 179; 180; 181; 182; 183; 184; 185; 186; 187; 188; 189; 190; 191; 192; 193; 194; 195; 196; 197; 198; 199; 200; 201; 202; 203; 204; 205; 206; 207; 208; 209; 210; 211; 212; 213; 214; 215; 216; 217; 218; 219; 220; 221; 222; 223; 224; 225; 226; 227; 228; 229; 230; 231; 232; 233; 234; 235; 236; 237; 238; 239; 240; 241; 242; 243; 244; 245; 246; 247; 248; 249; 250; 251; 252; 253; 254 allowed-VIF-devices (SRO): 2; 3; 4; 5; 6 possible-hosts ( RO): 9f4998bb-a8ec-411d-8f8a-37aaa624731f domain-type ( RW): hvm current-domain-type ( RO): hvm HVM-boot-policy ( RW): BIOS Order HVM-boot-params (MRW): order: cdn HVM-shadow-multiplier ( RW): 1.000 PV-kernel ( RW): PV-ramdisk ( RW): PV-args ( RW): PV-legacy-args ( RW): PV-bootloader ( RW): pygrub PV-bootloader-args ( RW): last-boot-CPU-flags ( RO): vendor: AuthenticAMD; features: 178bfbff-f6f83203-2fd3fbff-040005f7-0000000f-219c01a9-00400004-00000000-00001005-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000 last-boot-record ( RO): '('struct' ('uuid' 'ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713') ('allowed_operations' ('array' 'changing_dynamic_range' 'changing_shadow_memory' 'changing_static_range' 'make_into_template' 'migrate_send' 'destroy' 'export' 'start_on' 'start' 'clone' 'copy' 'snapshot')) ('current_operations' ('struct')) ('power_state' 'Halted') ('name_label' 'Ansible') ('name_description' '') ('user_version' '1') ('is_a_template' ('boolean' '0')) ('suspend_VDI' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('resident_on' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('affinity' 'OpaqueRef:c1cb9672-f979-9187-fdfb-b8dac743f0c5') ('memory_overhead' '9437184') ('memory_target' '805306368') ('memory_static_max' '805306368') ('memory_dynamic_max' '805306368') ('memory_dynamic_min' '536870912') ('memory_static_min' '536870912') ('VCPUs_params' ('struct')) ('VCPUs_max' '2') ('VCPUs_at_startup' '2') ('actions_after_shutdown' 'destroy') ('actions_after_reboot' 'restart') ('actions_after_crash' 'restart') ('consoles' ('array')) ('VIFs' ('array' 'OpaqueRef:0f9aa2b3-e016-829d-2aaf-abf91948db87' 'OpaqueRef:e9f78326-81e2-d910-ee10-7b3e10269b51')) ('VBDs' ('array' 'OpaqueRef:df50dc48-1074-a2e6-00cf-cd67e7fa0e0b' 'OpaqueRef:d685ebf9-e289-7ce5-d053-368f5c448042')) ('crash_dumps' ('array')) ('VTPMs' ('array')) ('PV_bootloader' 'pygrub') ('PV_kernel' '') ('PV_ramdisk' '') ('PV_args' 'graphical utf8 vnc') ('PV_bootloader_args' '') ('PV_legacy_args' '') ('HVM_boot_policy' '') ('HVM_boot_params' ('struct')) ('HVM_shadow_multiplier' ('double' '1')) ('platform' ('struct' ('nx' 'true') ('acpi' '1') ('apic' 'true') ('pae' 'true') ('viridian' 'true') ('cores-per-socket' '1'))) ('PCI_bus' '') ('other_config' ('struct' ('import_task' 'OpaqueRef:8a335f29-8caa-0a29-cc3f-bf1a0770bfc8') ('vgpu_pci' '') ('instant' 'true') ('base_template_name' 'CentOS 6 (64-bit)') ('install-repository' 'cdrom') ('linux_template' 'true') ('mac_seed' '8f5c7676-803e-bc1a-1179-a03f3d1c4dba') ('rhel6' 'true') ('install-methods' 'cdrom,nfs,http,ftp'))) ('domid' '-1') ('domarch' '') ('last_boot_CPU_flags' ('struct' ('vendor' 'GenuineIntel') ('features' '0000e3bd-bfebfbff-00000001-20000800'))) ('is_control_domain' ('boolean' '0')) ('metrics' 'OpaqueRef:5f279975-1592-941f-e9a7-1147bcd19969') ('guest_metrics' 'OpaqueRef:47854fb7-fc77-7d61-73ef-20db6ecf857d') ('last_booted_record' '') ('recommendations' '<restrictions><restriction field=\"memory-static-max\" max=\"137438953472\" /><restriction field=\"vcpus-max\" max=\"16\" /><restriction property=\"number-of-vbds\" max=\"7\" /><restriction property=\"number-of-vifs\" max=\"7\" /></restrictions>') ('xenstore_data' ('struct' ('vm-data' ''))) ('ha_always_run' ('boolean' '0')) ('ha_restart_priority' '') ('is_a_snapshot' ('boolean' '0')) ('snapshot_of' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('snapshots' ('array')) ('snapshot_time' ('dateTime.iso8601' '19700101T00:00:00Z')) ('transportable_snapshot_id' '') ('blobs' ('struct')) ('tags' ('array')) ('blocked_operations' ('struct')) ('snapshot_info' ('struct')) ('snapshot_metadata' '') ('parent' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('children' ('array')) ('bios_strings' ('struct')) ('protection_policy' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('is_snapshot_from_vmpp' ('boolean' '0')) ('appliance' 'OpaqueRef:NULL') ('start_delay' '0') ('shutdown_delay' '0') ('order' '0') ('VGPUs' ('array')) ('attached_PCIs' ('array')) ('suspend_SR' 'OpaqueRef:9d96d61b-c00a-1e28-24e1-dc808080d989') ('version' '0') ('generation_id' '') ('hardware_platform_version' '0') ('has_vendor_device' ('boolean' '0')) ('requires_reboot' ('boolean' '0')) ('reference_label' ''))' resident-on ( RO): <not in database> affinity ( RW): <not in database> other-config (MRW): import_task: OpaqueRef:7cad0252-3d5a-48f9-bade-d29eddb43e2f; vgpu_pci: ; instant: true; base_template_name: CentOS 6 (64-bit); install-repository: cdrom; linux_template: true; mac_seed: 8f5c7676-803e-bc1a-1179-a03f3d1c4dba; rhel6: true; install-methods: cdrom,nfs,http,ftp; auto_poweron: true dom-id ( RO): -1 recommendations ( RO): <restrictions><restriction field="memory-static-max" max="137438953472" /><restriction field="vcpus-max" max="16" /><restriction property="number-of-vbds" max="7" /><restriction property="number-of-vifs" max="7" /></restrictions> xenstore-data (MRW): vm-data: ; vm-data/mmio-hole-size: 268435456 ha-always-run ( RW) [DEPRECATED]: false ha-restart-priority ( RW): blobs ( RO): start-time ( RO): 20200401T19:18:08Z install-time ( RO): 19700101T00:00:00Z VCPUs-number ( RO): 2 VCPUs-utilisation (MRO): os-version (MRO): name: CentOS release 6.10 (Final); uname: 2.6.32-754.28.1.el6.x86_64; distro: centos; major: 6; minor: 10 PV-drivers-version (MRO): major: 6; minor: 2; micro: 0; build: 70442 PV-drivers-up-to-date ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: true memory (MRO): disks (MRO): VBDs (SRO): 8025ece8-5d5b-43da-4bcb-cee8f7847312; 40bc5cf3-381c-1119-70c2-6749062fc93a networks (MRO): 1/ip: 70.47.94.71; 1/ipv4/0: 70.47.94.71; 1/ipv6/0: fe80::20a1:89ff:feef:2145; 0/ip: 192.168.2.14; 0/ipv4/0: 192.168.2.14; 0/ipv6/0: fe80::487a:26ff:fe45:e37f PV-drivers-detected ( RO): true other (MRO): platform-feature-multiprocessor-suspend: 1; has-vendor-device: 0; feature-suspend: 1; feature-poweroff: 1; feature-reboot: 1; feature-vcpu-hotplug: 1; feature-balloon: 1 live ( RO): true guest-metrics-last-updated ( RO): 20200401T19:18:46Z can-use-hotplug-vbd ( RO): unspecified can-use-hotplug-vif ( RO): unspecified cooperative ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: true tags (SRW): appliance ( RW): <not in database> snapshot-schedule ( RW): <not in database> is-vmss-snapshot ( RO): false start-delay ( RW): 0 shutdown-delay ( RW): 0 order ( RW): 0 version ( RO): 0 generation-id ( RO): hardware-platform-version ( RO): 0 has-vendor-device ( RW): false requires-reboot ( RO): false reference-label ( RO): bios-strings (MRO): bios-vendor: Xen; bios-version: ; system-manufacturer: Xen; system-product-name: HVM domU; system-version: ; system-serial-number: ; hp-rombios: ; oem-1: Xen; oem-2: MS_VM_CERT/SHA1/bdbeb6e0a816d43fa6d3fe8aaef04c2bad9d3e3dThis is the snap with XOA
xe vm-param-list uuid=05847d68-ae1f-c06b-c05f-aeff2ca5c6fe uuid ( RO) : 05847d68-ae1f-c06b-c05f-aeff2ca5c6fe name-label ( RW): Snap with XOA name-description ( RW): Had to change to HVM and remove "console=hvc0" from kernel line user-version ( RW): 1 is-a-template ( RW): false is-default-template ( RW): false is-a-snapshot ( RO): true snapshot-of ( RO): ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713 snapshots ( RO): snapshot-time ( RO): 20200401T20:13:08Z snapshot-info ( RO): disk-snapshot-type: crash_consistent; power-state-at-snapshot: Running parent ( RO): 13a6127c-59ab-1da2-1f2c-50fae29b5775 children ( RO): ac2cf595-b577-901a-5176-321a5ed81713 is-control-domain ( RO): false power-state ( RO): halted memory-actual ( RO): 805302272 memory-target ( RO): 0 memory-overhead ( RO): 10485760 memory-static-max ( RW): 805306368 memory-dynamic-max ( RW): 805306368 memory-dynamic-min ( RW): 536870912 memory-static-min ( RW): 536870912 suspend-VDI-uuid ( RW): <not in database> suspend-SR-uuid ( RW): <not in database> VCPUs-params (MRW): weight: 256 VCPUs-max ( RW): 2 VCPUs-at-startup ( RW): 2 actions-after-shutdown ( RW): Destroy actions-after-reboot ( RW): Restart actions-after-crash ( RW): Restart console-uuids (SRO): hvm ( RO): true platform (MRW): timeoffset: 0; viridian: false; device-model: qemu-upstream-compat; nx: true; acpi: 1; apic: true; pae: true; cores-per-socket: 1 allowed-operations (SRO): destroy; export; revert; clone; copy current-operations (SRO): blocked-operations (MRW): allowed-VBD-devices (SRO): 1; 2; 4; 5; 6; 7; 8; 9; 10; 11; 12; 13; 14; 15; 16; 17; 18; 19; 20; 21; 22; 23; 24; 25; 26; 27; 28; 29; 30; 31; 32; 33; 34; 35; 36; 37; 38; 39; 40; 41; 42; 43; 44; 45; 46; 47; 48; 49; 50; 51; 52; 53; 54; 55; 56; 57; 58; 59; 60; 61; 62; 63; 64; 65; 66; 67; 68; 69; 70; 71; 72; 73; 74; 75; 76; 77; 78; 79; 80; 81; 82; 83; 84; 85; 86; 87; 88; 89; 90; 91; 92; 93; 94; 95; 96; 97; 98; 99; 100; 101; 102; 103; 104; 105; 106; 107; 108; 109; 110; 111; 112; 113; 114; 115; 116; 117; 118; 119; 120; 121; 122; 123; 124; 125; 126; 127; 128; 129; 130; 131; 132; 133; 134; 135; 136; 137; 138; 139; 140; 141; 142; 143; 144; 145; 146; 147; 148; 149; 150; 151; 152; 153; 154; 155; 156; 157; 158; 159; 160; 161; 162; 163; 164; 165; 166; 167; 168; 169; 170; 171; 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vgpu_pci: ; instant: true; base_template_name: CentOS 6 (64-bit); install-repository: cdrom; linux_template: true; mac_seed: 8f5c7676-803e-bc1a-1179-a03f3d1c4dba; rhel6: true; install-methods: cdrom,nfs,http,ftp; auto_poweron: true dom-id ( RO): -1 recommendations ( RO): <restrictions><restriction field="memory-static-max" max="137438953472" /><restriction field="vcpus-max" max="16" /><restriction property="number-of-vbds" max="7" /><restriction property="number-of-vifs" max="7" /></restrictions> xenstore-data (MRW): vm-data: ; vm-data/mmio-hole-size: 268435456 ha-always-run ( RW) [DEPRECATED]: false ha-restart-priority ( RW): blobs ( RO): start-time ( RO): 20200401T19:18:08Z install-time ( RO): 20200401T20:13:09Z VCPUs-number ( RO): 2 VCPUs-utilisation (MRO): os-version (MRO): name: CentOS release 6.10 (Final); uname: 2.6.32-754.28.1.el6.x86_64; distro: centos; major: 6; minor: 10 PV-drivers-version (MRO): major: 6; minor: 2; micro: 0; build: 70442 PV-drivers-up-to-date ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: true memory (MRO): disks (MRO): VBDs (SRO): 42cd13eb-2c57-e125-dabc-03a565a53b9d; 12603443-32bd-2bd1-44b7-dcfb08b6e659 networks (MRO): 1/ip: 70.47.94.71; 1/ipv4/0: 70.47.94.71; 1/ipv6/0: fe80::20a1:89ff:feef:2145; 0/ip: 192.168.2.14; 0/ipv4/0: 192.168.2.14; 0/ipv6/0: fe80::487a:26ff:fe45:e37f PV-drivers-detected ( RO): true other (MRO): platform-feature-multiprocessor-suspend: 1; has-vendor-device: 0; feature-suspend: 1; feature-poweroff: 1; feature-reboot: 1; feature-vcpu-hotplug: 1; feature-balloon: 1 live ( RO): true guest-metrics-last-updated ( RO): 20200401T19:18:46Z can-use-hotplug-vbd ( RO): unspecified can-use-hotplug-vif ( RO): unspecified cooperative ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: true tags (SRW): appliance ( RW): <not in database> snapshot-schedule ( RW): <not in database> is-vmss-snapshot ( RO): false start-delay ( RW): 0 shutdown-delay ( RW): 0 order ( RW): 0 version ( RO): 0 generation-id ( RO): hardware-platform-version ( RO): 0 has-vendor-device ( RW): false requires-reboot ( RO): false reference-label ( RO): bios-strings (MRO): bios-vendor: Xen; bios-version: ; system-manufacturer: Xen; system-product-name: HVM domU; system-version: ; system-serial-number: ; hp-rombios: ; oem-1: Xen; oem-2: MS_VM_CERT/SHA1/bdbeb6e0a816d43fa6d3fe8aaef04c2bad9d3e3d -
@hvilches said in XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released:
is-a-template ( RW): true
Looks like this is the culprit...
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I am learning so much... thank you.
The issue probably here, the flags:
uuid ( RO) : 13a6127c-59ab-1da2-1f2c-50fae29b5775 name-label ( RW): Snap with Center name-description ( RW): user-version ( RW): 1 is-a-template ( RW): true is-default-template ( RW): false is-a-snapshot ( RO): trueuuid ( RO) : 05847d68-ae1f-c06b-c05f-aeff2ca5c6fe name-label ( RW): Snap with XOA name-description ( RW): Had to change to HVM and remove "console=hvc0" from kernel line user-version ( RW): 1 is-a-template ( RW): false is-default-template ( RW): false is-a-snapshot ( RO): true -
@Danp said in XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released:
@hvilches said in XCP-ng Center 20.03.00 released:
is-a-template ( RW): true
Looks like this is the culprit...
You beat me to it.
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Also worth noting is that Center isn't adding the name-description string, whereas XOA is.No... XOA is defaulting to the name-description (as expected.) and Center is asking for one, and I left it blank... No issue here.
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So it's clear to me (as thinking of inside Center): it is not a "template", so the snapshot is not working in the VM creation wizard. That's also the case with XOA snaps from backups, you can not create a VM from that in Center.. I always wondered about that, but as you found the flag it seems clear to me.
We could fix it in two ways:
- let Center create VMs from also from snapshot that are not "a template"
- don't show the menu entry in Center on the snapshot list if it is not "is-template"
I wonder why this flag is important, what was the reason to program Center this way
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I would surmise, that since Center is behaving as it has for as long as I can remember, the fix should be applied to XO.
XO should set the template flag on a snapshot, so XenCenter and XCP-ng Center both behave as expected. The two flags I imagine are used by XenCenter and XCP-ng to build lists in the relevant dialogs that require ONLY templates, or templates and snapshots of a given VM. In this case, the dialog looks to show is-a-template (true) and is-a-snap-shot (true) and is it for the selected VM.
That said, I don't know enough about the implications. It may just be a flag, or there is something much deeper going on.
Said another way, if XO's snapshots are generated identically to Center's snapshots, then the flag is the only difference. The flag would be the only fix needed.
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We won't change a behavior on XO without having a good reason to do so. Historical reason is not a good one
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Said another way, if XO's snapshots are generated identically to Center's snapshots, then the flag is the only difference. The flag would be the only fix needed.
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"Fix needed" from your perspective, not for mine, until there's a good reason to do so
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Your response worries me. How many other features in Center, replicated in XO, are actually not the same feature? As a user, I trust that a snapshot in *Center or XO behave identically across both. They are both supposed to be using the same API. Why are they different? Over time, it would lead to distrust of XO.
I have just learned, for example, I cannot trust XO snapshots. And what problems might I encounter with VMs created in XO today, when I try to manage them in Center, months from now?
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Ask @nikade how he feels about some differences
We are trying to do things right, and with less "historical" reasons. Xen Orchestra is NOT a clone of XenCenter. And was never meant to be.If you are using XCP-ng, you should trust XO more than XCP-ng Center: because XO is actively maintained by a team of 6 dev working full time. XCP-ng Center is kindly maintained by @borzel and he's alone.
Also, you can't tell us it's a move from us to make people prisoner about a product, Xen Orchestra is fully Open Source and free.
So if you can explain the reason why we should do otherwise about snapshot, go ahead. Otherwise, I won't change a XO behavior without any other reason that's how another client is doing: this is not enough.
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I understand your point, but my point is just as valid: I have just learned, for example, I cannot trust XO snapshots. And what problems might I encounter with VMs created in XO today, when I try to manage them in Center, months from now?
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Why you can't trust them?
