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    Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do?

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      IndyJ last edited by

      Not sure this is a real issue for those that wish to use CentOS 8. But when RedHat brought CentOS in and then IBM bought RedHat I guess one had to see something like this coming. ๐Ÿ™„

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      • stormi
        stormi XCP-ng Team Admin Vates Team last edited by

        The main bad move here is that they promised support until 2029, people trusted them, migrated from CentOS 7 to 8, and now they regret it.

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          olivierlambert XCP-ng Team Admin Vates Team last edited by

          Yeah, that's a breach of trust ๐Ÿ˜ž

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            zulu @stormi last edited by

            @stormi true that! We've already migrated 30% of our infrastructure to CentOS 8 and now this...

            This is gold, anyway.

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              olivierlambert XCP-ng Team Admin Vates Team @zulu last edited by

              @zulu oh godโ€ฆ Indeed, this is gold ๐Ÿ˜†

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              • stormi
                stormi XCP-ng Team Admin Vates Team last edited by

                A useful thread from someone working on CentOS restoring some facts after the disastrous announcement and the logical reactions from disappointed users: https://twitter.com/carlwgeorge/status/1336901625290625024

                The breach of trust is still there regarding the EOL date of CentOS 8, but CentOS 8 Stream itself should not be that bad. It should still receive a fair amount of internal testing at Red Hat. They probably shouldn't have used the words "development branch" in their blog post: it was obvious that everyone would automatically translate it into "unstable".

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                  astrugatch @stormi last edited by

                  @stormi

                  It still moves it ahead of RHEL where as CentOS typically trailed (briefly). I'm not sure what to make of ANOTHER dev branch considering I thought that was the niche Fedora fit in.

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                    Biggen last edited by

                    There is also Oracle Linux which is another RHEL offshoot.

                    Will be interesting to see what Xen decides to do. Does xcp-ng forge ahead on their own and pick a distribution that Xen doesnโ€™t?

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                    • olivierlambert
                      olivierlambert XCP-ng Team Admin Vates Team last edited by

                      What do you mean by "Xen" @Biggen ? Xen itself doesn't need any Linux distro.

                      You meant Citrix maybe?

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                        Biggen @olivierlambert last edited by

                        @olivierlambert Yup, I meant Citrix and whatever they call it now - XenServer.

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                        • olivierlambert
                          olivierlambert XCP-ng Team Admin Vates Team last edited by

                          We'll have discussion with them to have think about the future ๐Ÿ™‚

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                            stormi XCP-ng Team Admin Vates Team last edited by

                            We have published a blog post about all this: https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2020/12/17/centos-and-xcpng-future/

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                              jefftee @ieugen last edited by jefftee

                              @ieugen Read the blog post that XCP-NG posted today on this very topic, but even if the decided to stick with CentOS 8 Stream for the future base platform, they have selective control over which packages/updates would get released for XCP-NG.

                              I've already switched my CentOS 8.x installs to CentOS 8 Stream. Fedora is too buggy and too far upstream of RedHat for my personal taste. CentOS 8 Steam is supposed to be positioned between Fedora and RedHat, so they might just hit the sweet spot.

                              Of course, if XCP-NG switched to Ubuntu LTS releases as the base going forward, I wouldn't cry about that either, so I anticipate this announcement from RedHat won't really affect XCP-NG and we'll look back on this and realize it was not a big deal.

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