Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do?
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The main bad move here is that they promised support until 2029, people trusted them, migrated from CentOS 7 to 8, and now they regret it.
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Yeah, that's a breach of trust
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@zulu oh god… Indeed, this is gold
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A useful thread from someone working on CentOS restoring some facts after the disastrous announcement and the logical reactions from disappointed users: https://twitter.com/carlwgeorge/status/1336901625290625024
The breach of trust is still there regarding the EOL date of CentOS 8, but CentOS 8 Stream itself should not be that bad. It should still receive a fair amount of internal testing at Red Hat. They probably shouldn't have used the words "development branch" in their blog post: it was obvious that everyone would automatically translate it into "unstable".
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It still moves it ahead of RHEL where as CentOS typically trailed (briefly). I'm not sure what to make of ANOTHER dev branch considering I thought that was the niche Fedora fit in.
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There is also Oracle Linux which is another RHEL offshoot.
Will be interesting to see what Xen decides to do. Does xcp-ng forge ahead on their own and pick a distribution that Xen doesn’t?
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What do you mean by "Xen" @Biggen ? Xen itself doesn't need any Linux distro.
You meant Citrix maybe?
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@olivierlambert Yup, I meant Citrix and whatever they call it now - XenServer.
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We'll have discussion with them to have think about the future
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We have published a blog post about all this: https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2020/12/17/centos-and-xcpng-future/
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@ieugen Read the blog post that XCP-NG posted today on this very topic, but even if the decided to stick with CentOS 8 Stream for the future base platform, they have selective control over which packages/updates would get released for XCP-NG.
I've already switched my CentOS 8.x installs to CentOS 8 Stream. Fedora is too buggy and too far upstream of RedHat for my personal taste. CentOS 8 Steam is supposed to be positioned between Fedora and RedHat, so they might just hit the sweet spot.
Of course, if XCP-NG switched to Ubuntu LTS releases as the base going forward, I wouldn't cry about that either, so I anticipate this announcement from RedHat won't really affect XCP-NG and we'll look back on this and realize it was not a big deal.
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@jefftee I prefer Alpine Linux.
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@indyj ok
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@indyj said in Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do?:
@jefftee I prefer Alpine Linux.
+1
Low resource footprint, no bloatware... They even have a pre-built Xen Hypervisor ISO flavor
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Xen and Linux kernel inside XCP-ng are completely custom, so it's pretty different than the those shipped in CentOS or even Alpine.
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I've always used Debian LTS for many, many years. Just curious if Debian is anywhere on the radar for the replacement?
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The thing is: everything is RPM based now. Switching to DEB will involve a LOT of work (not only to rebuild everything, but also the build system, now based on Koji etc.)
Note: I like Debian and it's my main server operating system.
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@olivierlambert said in Centos 8 is EOL in 2021, what will xcp-ng do?:
The thing is: everything is RPM based now. Switching to DEB will involve a LOT of work (not only to rebuild everything, but also the build system, now based on Koji etc.)
Note: I like Debian and it's my main server operating system.
Got it. Thanks!
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IMHO, CentOS Stream might do it, alternatively Rocky, but this will be probably a "common" decision with Citrix so we can keep our fork small and contribute to each project easily
(and move faster!)
