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    • acebmxerA Offline
      acebmxer @dthenot
      last edited by

      @dthenot

      I have been able to migrate all vms over to qcow2. Think shutting down the vms and booting backup. Alos if anything from this thread might have had an impact. https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/12087/backups-with-qcow2-enabled/9

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      • dthenotD Offline
        dthenot Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @Andrew
        last edited by

        @Andrew Hello,

        I have been able to find the problem and make a fix, it's in the process of being packaged.
        I can confirm it only happen for file based SR when using purge snapshots.
        For some reason, the vdi type of CBT_metadata is cbtlog for FileSR but stays the image format it was for LVMSR
        And it would make a condition fail during the list_changed_blocks call.

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        • olivierlambertO Offline
          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
          last edited by

          Nice catch @dthenot !

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          • A Offline
            Andrew Top contributor @dthenot
            last edited by

            @dthenot Great! I'm happy I was able to help test it. I look forward to the update release.

            Interesting note, CR is faster when the snapshots are not deleted.... or CR is faster because of the update, I'll test again after the fix.

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            • rzrR Offline
              rzr Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
              last edited by rzr

              Feature fixes, security and maintenance update candidates for you to test!

              This release batch contains fixes on the major storage feature previously announced,
              read the RC2 announcement for QCOW2 image format support for 2TiB+ images.

              The whole platform has been hardened with back-porting security patches from the latest version of OpenSSH.

              An additional driver fix is part of this minor package set.

              What changed

              Storage

              QCOW2 image format support is the major feature of this release batch,
              check related announcement in forum.

              Some fixes have been applied to fix issues found during the testing phase. Many thanks go to @Andrew who found a CBT-related bug on file-based SRs!

              • sm: 3.2.12-17.5
                • Fix a regression on CBT (Changed block tracking) on file-based SRs (EXT, NFS, ...), causing backup jobs using the "purge snapshot data when using CBT" option to create full backups each time instead of deltas.
                • Deactivate unused LVM snapshot base before deletion to prevent LVM leak. This fix is not related to the QCOW2 feature, but is important and localized enough for us to provide it in addition the other changes.
                • Minor fix that prevents a warning when updating the package.
              • blktap: 3.55.5-6.5
                • Fix install warning when triggering mdadm to generate a udev rule.

              Network

              • openssh: Update to 9.8p1-1.2.3
                • Two vulnerabilities disclosed along with the OpenSSH 10.3 release have been fixed.
                  • In authorized_keys, when principals="" was defined along with a CA with a common CA, an interpretation error occurred, which could lead to unauthorized access.
                  • When one ECDSA algorithm was active, it activated all others regardless of their configuration. (By default, all ECDSA algorithms are active.)
                • For more details please track the upcoming Vates Security Advisories.

              Drivers updates

              More information about drivers and current versions is maintained on the drivers wiki page.

              • qlogic-fastlinq-alt: 8.74.6.0-1
                • Fixes 2 issues in the qede module driver:
                  • Driver does not retain configured MAC and MTU post reset recovery
                  • Driver does not recover from TX timeout error

              Versions:

              • blktap: 3.55.5-6.4.xcpng8.3 -> 3.55.5-6.5.xcpng8.3
              • openssh: 9.8p1-1.2.2.xcpng8.3 -> 9.8p1-1.2.3.xcpng8.3
              • sm: 3.2.12-17.2.xcpng8.3 -> 3.2.12-17.5.xcpng8.3

              Optional packages:

              • qlogic-fastlinq-alt: 8.70.12.0-1.xcpng8.3 -> 8.74.6.0-1.xcpng8.3

              Test on XCP-ng 8.3

              If you are using XOSTOR, please refer to our documentation for the update method.

              yum clean metadata --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing,xcp-ng-candidates
              yum update --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing,xcp-ng-candidates
              reboot
              

              The usual update rules apply: pool coordinator first, etc.

              What to test

              The most important change is related to storage: adding QCOW2 support also affects the codebase managing VHD disks. What matters here is, above all, to detect any regression on VHD support (we tested it deeply, but on this matter there's no such thing as too much testing). Of course, you are also welcome to test the QCOW2 image format support.

              See the dedicated thread for more information.

              Other significant changes requiring attention:

              • SSH connectivity

              And, as usual, normal use and anything else you want to test.

              Test window before official release of the updates

              ~4 days

              We would like to thank users who reported feedback on the QCOW RC2 release: @acebmxer, @andrew, @bufanda, @flakpyro, @jeffberntsen, @ph7

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              • acebmxerA Offline
                acebmxer @rzr
                last edited by acebmxer

                @rzr

                installed updates will report back.

                Update - I had migrated vms back over to vhd prior to update release. I have migrated 2 vms back over to qcow2 and the initial backup ran successfull. Ran a second delta backup and that as well was successful with out issues. Backups happen very quickly now. But it appears the % and progress bar are working.

                When CBT is enabled on the vm vdi. They show up as needing to be coalesced. VMs without CBT enabled the vdis are coalesced.

                Screenshot 2026-04-23 143142.png

                Will continue to monitor.

                Once the coalesence hits 2 for the vm. The vm is skipped form future backups until cleared. (shutting down the vm will allow the coalescence to happen.
                2026-04-23T19_52_34.694Z - backup NG.txt

                Screenshot 2026-04-23 155432.png

                Screenshot 2026-04-23 155727.png

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                • A Offline
                  Andrew Top contributor @rzr
                  last edited by

                  @rzr XCP 8.3 pools updated and running.

                  CR delta backup snapshot problem corrected and working now.

                  SSH from old system to XCP displays the warning (per documentation).

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                  • acebmxerA Offline
                    acebmxer
                    last edited by

                    @rzr

                    I thought i pressed save after editing the backup job to enable the purge snapshot when using cbt.

                    After re-enabling and clicking save. All is good now. No errors no stuck coalescence after backups.

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                    • rzrR Offline
                      rzr Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                      last edited by

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                      • M Offline
                        MajorP93
                        last edited by

                        I updated my test environment and performed a few tests:

                        • migrating VMs back and forth between VHD based NFS SR and QCOW2 based iSCSI SR --> VMs got converted between VHD and QCOW2 just fine, live migration worked
                        • creation of rather big QCOW2 based VMs (2.5+ TB)
                        • NBD-enabled delta backups of a mixed set of VMs (small, big, QCOW2, VHD)

                        All tests worked fine so far. Only thing that I noticed: When converting VHD-based VMs to QCOW2 format I was not able to storage migrate more than 2 VMs at a time. XO said something about "not enough memory". That might be related to my dom0 in test environment only having 4GB of RAM. Maybe not related to VHD to QCOW2 migration path. I never saw this error in my live environment where all node's dom0 have 8GB RAM.

                        Update candidate looks good so far from my point of view.

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                        • rzrR Offline
                          rzr Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
                          last edited by stormi

                          New update candidates for you to test!

                          We are continuing to refine the next batch of update with planned fixes. This release batch contains fixes on the major storage feature previously announced, read the RC2 announcement for QCOW2 image format support for 2TiB+ images.

                          What changed

                          Storage

                          QCOW2 image format support is the major feature of this release batch, check related announcement in forum.

                          Some fixes have been applied to fix issues found during the testing phase.

                          • sm: 3.2.12-17.6

                            • Limit QCOW2 VDI max size to be 16TiB with metadata to allow compatibility with EXTSR (EXTSR is limited to 16TiB unique file size)

                              • If a full QCOW2 VDI is allocated, XCP-ng would not be able to migrate it to an EXTSR with this limitation.

                              • In the future, while EXTSR will remain limited to this maximum size, other SR types will evolve towards higher limits. For this, we'll have to work on the existing assumption that all SR which support the QCOW2 image-format share the same maximum size limit for VDIs, and to catch migration attempts towards SRs whic cannot receive disks bigger than their maximum limit.

                          • blktap: 3.55.5-6.6

                            • Update the package's license.

                          Versions:

                          • blktap: 3.55.5-6.5.xcpng8.3 -> 3.55.5-6.6.xcpng8.3
                          • sm: 3.2.12-17.5.xcpng8.3 -> 3.2.12-17.6.xcpng8.3

                          Test on XCP-ng 8.3

                          If you are using XOSTOR, please refer to our documentation for the update method.

                          yum clean metadata --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing,xcp-ng-candidates
                          yum update --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing,xcp-ng-candidates
                          reboot
                          

                          The usual update rules apply: pool coordinator first, etc.

                          What to test

                          The most important change is related to storage: adding QCOW2 support also affects the codebase managing VHD disks. What matters here is, above all, to detect any regression on VHD support (we tested it deeply, but on this matter there's no such thing as too much testing). Of course, you are also welcome to test the QCOW2 image format support.

                          See the dedicated thread for more information.

                          And, as usual, normal use and anything else you want to test.

                          Test window before official release of the updates

                          ~3 days

                          We would like to thank users who reported feedback since our last call for testing, in less than 24h: @acebmxer, @Andrew, @MajorP93.

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                          • F Offline
                            flakpyro @rzr
                            last edited by flakpyro

                            Installed on my usual test hosts without issues. However i am not using the qcow2 disk format anywhere yet

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                            • acebmxerA Offline
                              acebmxer @rzr
                              last edited by

                              @rzr Installed latest update and no issues to report. I dont hvae any 2tb+ drives in my vms. converting from vhd to qcow2 and backups all working.

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                              • A Offline
                                Andrew Top contributor @rzr
                                last edited by

                                @rzr Updates running. VHD use only.

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                                • B Offline
                                  bufanda
                                  last edited by

                                  Installed on my usual lab setup works fine so far although I have the "Fell back to full backup" message for qcow2 VMs

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                                  • acebmxerA Offline
                                    acebmxer @bufanda
                                    last edited by

                                    @bufanda Make sure you have enable the purge snapshot when using CBT, if you are using CBT. After the previous update that fixed fell back to full backup issue for me..

                                    Maybe also try running a manual full backup to reset the VDI chain.

                                    Screenshot_20260425_071444.png

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                                    • acebmxerA Offline
                                      acebmxer @rzr
                                      last edited by acebmxer

                                      @rzr

                                      One thing i am noticing after this updates. Is i am seeing alot more traffic on my truenas. The gaps are me shutting down vms and starting each one to find the problem vms but it seems to be any vm. I didnt notice any performance issues just noticed the graph in truenas when its usally flat line there the occasional spike here and there not the big mess to the left in first screenshot. 5 vms running

                                      My xoa is on local storage on master host. and used for these test.
                                      All vms are powered off except xoa and xo

                                      Screenshot_20260425_130107.png

                                      Here i booted the xo vm and left it idle. The spike after is me live migrate back to vhd SR and then left idle.

                                      Screenshot_20260425_135258-1.png

                                      The gap in the middle is xo idle on vhd only SR.
                                      Screenshot_20260425_135604.png

                                      live Migrate xo back to qcow2 only SR
                                      Screenshot_20260425_140908.png

                                      Migration back to qcow2 completed
                                      Screenshot_20260425_143122.png

                                      Left xo ldle after migration to qcow2 sr.
                                      Screenshot_20260425_144314.png

                                      Again all vms booted and idle....

                                      Screenshot_20260425_145451.png

                                      From master host.
                                      Screenshot_20260425_150320.png

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                                      • B Offline
                                        bufanda @acebmxer
                                        last edited by

                                        @acebmxer purge snapshots is active since I created the backup job over a year ago. I always enable purge snapshots on backup jobs.

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                                        • stormiS Offline
                                          stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @bufanda
                                          last edited by

                                          @bufanda I'm being told it's expected to have it the first time after the update, but in theory the next ones should be not be fulls. Can you try?

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                                          • stormiS Offline
                                            stormi Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @acebmxer
                                            last edited by

                                            @acebmxer with qcow2, the way we scan the SR regularly uses more I/O, so this may explain it.

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