@cichy said in Pre-Setup for Migration of 75+ VM's from Proxmox VE to XCP-ng:
@john.c correct. It's the auto updates and automations that come with the appliance that I am after. I believe the trial is only one month? Or possibly only 15 days? The support element is mostly irrelevant to me/us. I do a fair bit of automation via Ansible/Terraform, so developing our own unique library of Templates is ideal. Again, new to all this. So, it may just be that I've not come across this within my XO from "sources" build.
To your point - I was referring to XO Community = to XO Sources.
We may be unique in our internal policies to test for min 9-12 months prior to subscription? Proxmox licensing worked very well for us, because even when our three node HA edge cluster was in production, we were still able to license per the lowest tier which mad the whole stack so much more financially viable. I think we have 2/3 nodes on basic licensing and 1 may even be on Community! We are very technically savvy bunch that has managed to get by on this thus far. 
Thanks for the comments/feedback. Much appreciated!
@cichy Though do note that you can make your case to Vates staff, during the trial if you find you don’t have enough time to test. Just don’t string them along by gaming the trial offer, to the point it becomes of infinite length, in a similar fashion to another organisation which won’t be named.
Also Netdata is a valuable plugin available in the appliance version of Xen Orchestra (XOA). A useful part of any monitoring solution.
The updating functionality in Xen Orchestra has recently gained the capability to be scheduled to run regularly. Finally in the last couple of months, Vates has completely re-done the backup feature in Xen Orchestra. If your workplace operates in regulated industry or policies are for air gapped infrastructure then Vates have most definitely got you covered with Pro and Enterprise plans!!
The XO Hub feature is only available to the appliance version as it is tied, to the Vates IT infrastructure. As well as likely the user account. Another feature present in the appliance version is the capacity for your Xen Orchestra settings, to be synchronised against the Vates account!
You may be very technically minded and/or your team, but as you state your new to the Vates VMS stack. Your access to their paid support, through the subscription support plan will pay for itself. Additionally your supporting (funding) future work on the software Vates releases. They can help you track down issues, as developers and thus root out what causes problems. Plus as members of the Xen Project and through that Linux Foundation, this will likely prove valuable - influence on future development.
If you pay yearly and sufficient multiple years, you’ll have the following based on choice made:-
- 1 Year - No Savings
- 3 Years - Up to 10% Savings in 3 years
- 5 Years - Up to 15% Savings in 5 years
Check the comparison between the plans it will show what you’re getting for what’s being paid. Also note that as new things are added at particular levels, on the paid plans they will become available to you when ready and available. This is based on update channel and plan chosen.
With Proxmox your paying per cpu socket, potentially including per host and this is per year. However with Vates VMS on the most basic plans, per year and on higher ones per host per year. No having to deal with costs, per cpu socket or core with Vates. Thus more predictable costs, thus making it much cheaper for you in the long run!!
So if you have an infrastructure of no more than 3 hosts max depending on requirements, then either Essentials or Essentials+. However more than 3 hosts requires you to go for either Pro or Enterprise plans. Note that Enterprise plan requires a minimum of 4 hosts!
