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      Bane @olivierlambert
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      @olivierlambert

      When I run the below, I get destination 'xen-orchestra' already exisits.

      git clone -b latest https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra

      I'm not an expert so forgive me if this seems like a basic question.

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      • olivierlambertO Offline
        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
        last edited by

        1. If you use XOA, then you just have to click on "Update" by using the "latest" release channel. No command line.

        2. If you use XO from the source, then please follow the instructions: https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/installation.html#fetching-the-code

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          Bane @olivierlambert
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          @olivierlambert

          Ok, after updating now the backup fails with with:

          SESSION_AUTHENTICATION_FAILED(root, Authentication failure)

          I can log into the xcp-ng server with root from the XOA VM. So, I don't understand what is taking place here.

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          • olivierlambertO Offline
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
            last edited by

            Are you sure about the password? This error is clearly an auth issue

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              Bane @olivierlambert
              last edited by Bane

              @olivierlambert

              I deleted my server out and re-added it. I no longer have the authentication error. So back to the backup...

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                Bane @olivierlambert
                last edited by

                @olivierlambert

                I still have HTTP timeouts on the backup. The quantity is less however.

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                • DanpD Offline
                  Danp Pro Support Team @Bane
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                  @Bane Have you tried increasing the timeout length?

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                    Bane @Danp
                    last edited by Bane

                    @Danp

                    Yes, that has been done. The most recent builds Olivierlambert suggested have reduced the issue, just not fixed it completely.

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                    • DanpD Offline
                      Danp Pro Support Team @Bane
                      last edited by

                      @Bane Sorry if I wasn't clear. I meant to further increase it from the initial solution provided. What happens if you change 1800000 to 3600000?

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                        Bane @Danp
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                        @Danp I've doubled it and I'm retrying the backup.

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                          Bane
                          last edited by Bane

                          It looks like changing the time out to 60 minutes has fixed my backup issue. So, the next question.

                          Is it possible to restore the VM backups to a different install of XCP-NG? I have a single XCP-NG server and would like to re-install XCP-NG and set it up for XCP to be on smaller hard drive and all my VM storage to be on a ZFS RAIDZ1.

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                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                            That's one great thing about virtualization and XO backup: it doesn't matter where do you restore your backups. Doesn't matter in terms of hardware, storage, network.

                            You can restore all your backup on freshly installed machines or old stuff, regardless what's inside.

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                              Bane @olivierlambert
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                              @olivierlambert

                              Where would the timeout fix be applied in community edition? There is not a /etc/xo-server directory.

                              Thanks,

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                                Bane @olivierlambert
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                                @olivierlambert I'm also trying to restore the VM's that were successfully backed up. I have two that fail to restore and give the error:

                                IMPORT_ERROR_PREMATURE_EOF()

                                What can I do to determine what this failure means? I found a previous entry about disk space, but I do not have any disk usage issues that I can see.

                                Filesystem          Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
                                devtmpfs            2.8G   12K  2.8G   1% /dev
                                tmpfs               2.8G  268K  2.8G   1% /dev/shm
                                tmpfs               2.8G   10M  2.8G   1% /run
                                tmpfs               2.8G     0  2.8G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
                                /dev/nvme0n1p1       18G  1.9G   15G  12% /
                                xenstore            2.8G     0  2.8G   0% /var/lib/xenstored
                                /dev/nvme0n1p5      3.9G   83M  3.6G   3% /var/log
                                /dev/nvme0n1p4      512M  3.0M  509M   1% /boot/efi
                                tmpfs               571M     0  571M   0% /run/user/0
                                tank                4.3T  256K  4.3T   1% /tank
                                tank/local-store    4.3T   17G  4.3T   1% /tank/local-store
                                //192.168.2.15/iso   22T   15T  6.5T  70% /run/sr-mount/39ac011c-a02a-d9bb-0fef-7fffebbefacc
                                
                                

                                Thanks

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                                • olivierlambertO Offline
                                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                  1. It's not a fix, it's just a workaround. It's not normal to have this kind of timeout 😕
                                  2. IMPORT_ERROR_PREMATURE_EOF() means the backup is maybe incomplete or import stalled
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                                    Bane @olivierlambert
                                    last edited by Bane

                                    @olivierlambert

                                    Is there anyway to determine whether it's a failed backup or stalled import? Is there anything that can be done to correct a stalled import? I assume there is nothing that can be done for it if it's a failed backup..

                                    Also interesting is that the restores that fail are listed with a number instead of the VM name.

                                    xcp-ng restore error.png

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                                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                      last edited by

                                      It's really hard to tell without being inside the infrastructure 😕

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                                        Bane @olivierlambert
                                        last edited by Bane

                                        @olivierlambert

                                        Any logs inside XCP-NG that I can look at? I've resigned myself to the fact that I will have to rebuild the two VM's that won't import, but I'd like to prevent a similar situation in the future.

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                                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                          last edited by olivierlambert

                                          Are you using XOA or XO from the sources? In any case, be sure you be entirely up to date (on latest or latest commit)

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                                            Bane @olivierlambert
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                                            @olivierlambert

                                            I have both installed to try out community. I am performing the restore from XOA, the same console I used for the backups.

                                            Incidentally, I would pay for the XOA, but $70 a month to get back up for my home lab is a bit pricy, I only have one server. You guys might consider offering a paid version with backup that maybe doesn't include premium support for a reduced price. I can't speak for anyone else, but I would be willing to pay for something like that, to have a turnkey solution with easy updates and backup.

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