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    VMware migration tool: we need your feedback!

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    • A Offline
      andyh @andyh
      last edited by

      Gave this is a try earlier with some changes to my openssl.cnf

      Sadly still coming across the same error, is there a minimum ESXi version that the import tool will connect to ?

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        KPS Top contributor @andyh
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        Hi!

        I did try the migration from the GUI for the first time.
        The job did start and create a VM on XCP-ng. But there is no snapshot on the "VMWare-side" and there is no progress on the import.

        The job did start and XO-tasks is now showing "importing vms, duration a few seconds, status green"

        There is no "cancel" option.

        On the XCP-ng-SR, there are the new disks, but they are empty.

        Do you have any idea, what I did wrong and how I can proceed?

        Tested on XOA on latest stable

        Thank you and best wishes

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          florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @KPS
          last edited by

          @KPS is there anything in the log ( journalctl ) ?

          we can't migrate live data. Is the VM running ?

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            KPS Top contributor @florent
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            @florent
            Sorry, that was the problem.
            I was mislead by the wording "Source VM stopped before the last delta transfer (after final snapshot). Needed to fully transfer a running VM" in the GUI.

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              KPS Top contributor @KPS
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              Hi!

              I am still struggeling with the VMWare migration tool.

              According to the docs, it should be possible to "warm-migrate" a VM, but when I try to, I am getting errors:

              "message": "500 Internal Server Error https://vcenter/folder/InetTS00_U20.04/InetTS00_U20.04-flat.vmdk?dcPath=HZ&dsName=OpenE-2_vmware-1_LUN2",
              

              What is the "right" way to migrate a running VM?

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              • florentF Offline
                florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @KPS
                last edited by florent

                @KPS It should, but there are some case where the esxi lock all the files of a VM, and other where it only locks the last snapshot. We're still working on the exact limit, what is the version of esxi used ? what storage do you use ( local VMFS, iscsi, NFS, ... ) ?

                In parallel we're putting the finishing touch of a huge change that give a big speedup. that way the penalty of stopping the VM will be lighter. You can test by switching to the branch xva_generation
                https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/pull/7323

                fbeauchamp opened this pull request in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

                closed Import disks from ESXi to XCP-ng using XVA format #7323

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                  KPS Top contributor @florent
                  last edited by

                  @florent
                  Thank you for your answer. I am using vSphere 7 with iSCSI-storage.
                  Can you give me a hint on the "most stable" way to migrate?

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                    florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @KPS
                    last edited by

                    @KPS the most stable is always to stop the VMs
                    Trying to warm migrate a running VM between different hypervisor is always tricky, if not brittle, and we work to harden this process, define more clearly the limits and extends the possibilty (for example vsan)

                    What are the rough sizes of the VMs ? how many VM ? What is the timeframe of the full migration ?

                    Do you think you can give a try to the xva import on a stopped VM ? on some of my tests, this migration is completely saturating my network link and my disks, as shown in the PR. The fastest way is to have the XO doing the migration directly in the ESXI. As an additional bonus, the disk produced is thin

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                      neologic
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                      When migrating VMs from ESXi, the CPU count and Memory allocation is taken over to XCP-ng.
                      That's all fine for me.
                      However, after import, the static min memory allocation cannot be reduced.
                      Is there a workaround?

                      [02:56 xcp01 ~]# xe vm-param-get uuid=... param-name=memory-static-min
                      8589934592
                      [02:57 xcp01 ~]# xe vm-memory-static-range-set uuid=... min=4294967296 max=8589934592
                      The dynamic memory range violates constraint static_min <= dynamic_min <= dynamic_max <= static_max.

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                      • olivierlambertO Offline
                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                        last edited by

                        If you want to change the min, just change the min not the whole range 🙂

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                          neologic
                          last edited by

                          Hello Olivier

                          Min value is deactivated and not changeable via GUI.

                          However, I found out, that the static max value can be changed below the currently set static min value. (looks a bit strange to me?)

                          Example:
                          before change
                          => min 8GB max 8GB
                          change max value via GUI to 4GB
                          after change
                          => min 4GB max 4GB
                          Then change the max value to 8GB again.
                          => min 4GB max 8GB

                          Best regards
                          Thomas

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                          • olivierlambertO Offline
                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                            last edited by

                            Yes, because there's no reason to modify the static min. I was asking why are you trying to change the whole range via the CLI.

                            But first, what do you want to achieve functionally speaking?

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                              neologic
                              last edited by

                              To be able to start with dynamic memory at 4GB (min max) for the Windows Guest.
                              And then if needed, to be able, to expand to 8GB (min max) on the fly.
                              However, it seems, that the Windows Guest (2022 Server) always sees static max correct?

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                              • olivierlambertO Offline
                                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                last edited by olivierlambert

                                Do you really need dynamic memory? I would prefer to avoid it if you can. Each migration will deflate the VM to the dynamic min, which is a cause of a lot of crashes and migration issues (if not taken into account, eg dynamic too low vs current usage). Keep it with static as far as possible.

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                                  neologic
                                  last edited by

                                  Ok. Thank you for the advise.
                                  Will follow as recommended.
                                  Best regards

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                                    Riven
                                    last edited by

                                    Any plans to check how many vNICs there are and allow us to map each one correctly.

                                    All of our vmware VMs have multiple vNICs and are in different port-groups.

                                    Its not a major hassle to change them post-migration - just a nice-to-have.

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                                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                      You mean to map each VIF to each Network of your choice?

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                                        Riven @olivierlambert
                                        last edited by

                                        @olivierlambert - Yes, so when we do a V2V there is only 1 VIF listed to put the migrated VIFs in to, even if the VM has 5 VIFs

                                        Is it possible to query each vmx and allow us to select a 'network' for each VIF that it has?

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                                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                                          last edited by

                                          Question for @florent

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                                            florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Riven
                                            last edited by

                                            @Riven said in VMware migration tool: we need your feedback!:

                                            @olivierlambert - Yes, so when we do a V2V there is only 1 VIF listed to put the migrated VIFs in to, even if the VM has 5 VIFs

                                            Is it possible to query each vmx and allow us to select a 'network' for each VIF that it has?

                                            not for now

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