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    VMware migration tool: we need your feedback!

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    • K Offline
      KPS Top contributor @andyh
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      Hi!

      I did try the migration from the GUI for the first time.
      The job did start and create a VM on XCP-ng. But there is no snapshot on the "VMWare-side" and there is no progress on the import.

      The job did start and XO-tasks is now showing "importing vms, duration a few seconds, status green"

      There is no "cancel" option.

      On the XCP-ng-SR, there are the new disks, but they are empty.

      Do you have any idea, what I did wrong and how I can proceed?

      Tested on XOA on latest stable

      Thank you and best wishes

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        florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @KPS
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        @KPS is there anything in the log ( journalctl ) ?

        we can't migrate live data. Is the VM running ?

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          KPS Top contributor @florent
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          @florent
          Sorry, that was the problem.
          I was mislead by the wording "Source VM stopped before the last delta transfer (after final snapshot). Needed to fully transfer a running VM" in the GUI.

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            KPS Top contributor @KPS
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            Hi!

            I am still struggeling with the VMWare migration tool.

            According to the docs, it should be possible to "warm-migrate" a VM, but when I try to, I am getting errors:

            "message": "500 Internal Server Error https://vcenter/folder/InetTS00_U20.04/InetTS00_U20.04-flat.vmdk?dcPath=HZ&dsName=OpenE-2_vmware-1_LUN2",
            

            What is the "right" way to migrate a running VM?

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              florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @KPS
              last edited by florent

              @KPS It should, but there are some case where the esxi lock all the files of a VM, and other where it only locks the last snapshot. We're still working on the exact limit, what is the version of esxi used ? what storage do you use ( local VMFS, iscsi, NFS, ... ) ?

              In parallel we're putting the finishing touch of a huge change that give a big speedup. that way the penalty of stopping the VM will be lighter. You can test by switching to the branch xva_generation
              https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/pull/7323

              fbeauchamp opened this pull request in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

              closed Import disks from ESXi to XCP-ng using XVA format #7323

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                KPS Top contributor @florent
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                @florent
                Thank you for your answer. I am using vSphere 7 with iSCSI-storage.
                Can you give me a hint on the "most stable" way to migrate?

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                  florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @KPS
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                  @KPS the most stable is always to stop the VMs
                  Trying to warm migrate a running VM between different hypervisor is always tricky, if not brittle, and we work to harden this process, define more clearly the limits and extends the possibilty (for example vsan)

                  What are the rough sizes of the VMs ? how many VM ? What is the timeframe of the full migration ?

                  Do you think you can give a try to the xva import on a stopped VM ? on some of my tests, this migration is completely saturating my network link and my disks, as shown in the PR. The fastest way is to have the XO doing the migration directly in the ESXI. As an additional bonus, the disk produced is thin

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                    neologic
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                    When migrating VMs from ESXi, the CPU count and Memory allocation is taken over to XCP-ng.
                    That's all fine for me.
                    However, after import, the static min memory allocation cannot be reduced.
                    Is there a workaround?

                    [02:56 xcp01 ~]# xe vm-param-get uuid=... param-name=memory-static-min
                    8589934592
                    [02:57 xcp01 ~]# xe vm-memory-static-range-set uuid=... min=4294967296 max=8589934592
                    The dynamic memory range violates constraint static_min <= dynamic_min <= dynamic_max <= static_max.

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                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                      last edited by

                      If you want to change the min, just change the min not the whole range 🙂

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                        neologic
                        last edited by

                        Hello Olivier

                        Min value is deactivated and not changeable via GUI.

                        However, I found out, that the static max value can be changed below the currently set static min value. (looks a bit strange to me?)

                        Example:
                        before change
                        => min 8GB max 8GB
                        change max value via GUI to 4GB
                        after change
                        => min 4GB max 4GB
                        Then change the max value to 8GB again.
                        => min 4GB max 8GB

                        Best regards
                        Thomas

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                        • olivierlambertO Online
                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                          Yes, because there's no reason to modify the static min. I was asking why are you trying to change the whole range via the CLI.

                          But first, what do you want to achieve functionally speaking?

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                            neologic
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                            To be able to start with dynamic memory at 4GB (min max) for the Windows Guest.
                            And then if needed, to be able, to expand to 8GB (min max) on the fly.
                            However, it seems, that the Windows Guest (2022 Server) always sees static max correct?

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                            • olivierlambertO Online
                              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                              last edited by olivierlambert

                              Do you really need dynamic memory? I would prefer to avoid it if you can. Each migration will deflate the VM to the dynamic min, which is a cause of a lot of crashes and migration issues (if not taken into account, eg dynamic too low vs current usage). Keep it with static as far as possible.

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                                neologic
                                last edited by

                                Ok. Thank you for the advise.
                                Will follow as recommended.
                                Best regards

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                                  Riven
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                                  Any plans to check how many vNICs there are and allow us to map each one correctly.

                                  All of our vmware VMs have multiple vNICs and are in different port-groups.

                                  Its not a major hassle to change them post-migration - just a nice-to-have.

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                                    olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                    You mean to map each VIF to each Network of your choice?

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                                      Riven @olivierlambert
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                                      @olivierlambert - Yes, so when we do a V2V there is only 1 VIF listed to put the migrated VIFs in to, even if the VM has 5 VIFs

                                      Is it possible to query each vmx and allow us to select a 'network' for each VIF that it has?

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                                        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                        Question for @florent

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                                          florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Riven
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                                          @Riven said in VMware migration tool: we need your feedback!:

                                          @olivierlambert - Yes, so when we do a V2V there is only 1 VIF listed to put the migrated VIFs in to, even if the VM has 5 VIFs

                                          Is it possible to query each vmx and allow us to select a 'network' for each VIF that it has?

                                          not for now

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                                            rtjdamen @olivierlambert
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                                            @olivierlambert I wanted to comment on this topic, we have migrated around 450 vms in 3 months using this feature, it really was a game changer and without it we were never able to make the step to XCP-NG. during the migration process we saw the feature being improved, overall speed and reliability were great. Compliments on this feature and i think it will help a lot of future customers migrating to XCP-NG.

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