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      Pilow @Pilow
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      finally understood the network problem...

      If you have a match of MAC ADDRESS in netplan
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      Veeam restores the VM with a NEW MAC ADDRESS
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      so either you delete the match, or get the good mac on the VIF...

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        florent Vates 🪐 XO Team
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        nice
        I think they compute speed as "disk size / time" , whereas we compute it as " used data / time"

        That's great to have more choice on this space

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          Pilow @florent
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          @florent yep, bandwidth computation on Veeam has always been big numbers because of that method.

          another thing is MERGING at each remote transfer ending that make feel the backup is longer with XCP BACKUPS
          would be cool to have some insights (other than looking for the lock file in the remote) to see the progress of merge.

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            flakpyro @Pilow
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            @Pilow You can watch it via the cli using Journal using this command. Not as nice as having it in the UI but useful if you are waiting for a merge for finish before running maintenance on your remotes.

            sudo journalctl -u xo-server -f -n 50
            
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              acebmxer
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              @Pilow didnt realize veeam support for xcp-ng entered public beta. Downloading now and going to start testing.

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                Pilow @flakpyro
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                @flakpyro thank you 😃

                @florent , would be nice to add this to XCP backup ? merge progress

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                  acebmxer @Pilow
                  last edited by acebmxer

                  @Pilow

                  How did you add your xcp-ng pool/host to veeam? I sure its stupid simple but i cant figure it out...

                  Yes i am running the Beta version.

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                  Edit - after full uninstall and reinstall i see the option now. Now i can begin testing.

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                    acebmxer
                    last edited by acebmxer

                    I decided to go all in and do 5 at once... 4 vms at once.

                    3 linux and 2 windows 11 vms.

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                      acebmxer
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                      and when not accidentally routing the backups... save 6 min..

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                        florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Pilow
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                        @Pilow said in Veeam backup with XCP NG:

                        @flakpyro thank you 😃

                        @florent , would be nice to add this to XCP backup ? merge progress

                        You can check the toggle "merge sychronously" in the advanced block of the backup job, to at least know when the merge is done

                        (we intend to make this the default choice in the near future)

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                          Pilow @florent
                          last edited by Pilow

                          @florent i always check it, to avoid a merging process to be disrupted by another job.

                          so when the backup tranfer is done (we have a progress bar), the job just sits there.. .merging in background, without progress bar or percentage.
                          5 minutes later, the backup job finishes.

                          so your stats are flawed (used data over time) if time of merging is taken in account

                          see what I mean ?

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                            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                            Merging is another process than transfer. Transfer is between XCP-ng to XO (then to BR), while merging is only between XO and BR. The impact is very different (eg on the XCP-ng side, nothing happening during the merge)

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                              Pilow @olivierlambert
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                              @olivierlambert I get you.

                              Same in veeam and synthetic fulls, it's only between the server/proxy and the repository.
                              but we get a progressing percentage while the job sits while doing the synthetic full.

                              would be cool to "see" the progress of merging.
                              why ? bad habits from previous technologies used I guess.

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                                florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Pilow
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                                @Pilow said in Veeam backup with XCP NG:

                                @olivierlambert I get you.

                                Same in veeam and synthetic fulls, it's only between the server/proxy and the repository.
                                but we get a progressing percentage while the job sits while doing the synthetic full.

                                would be cool to "see" the progress of merging.
                                why ? bad habits from previous technologies used I guess.

                                Giving better observability is something we are working actively on , this is tightly coupled with being able to stop a task, and I hope we will be able to show the progress soon

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                                  redneckitguy @Pilow
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                                  @Pilow

                                  Nice! Has anyone tried item level restore, particularly those of us stuck in the Windows world and running Active Directory or MS SQL Server? That is an area where Veeam excels.

                                  We'll probably give it a try soon. We even have a full license that is still in use while we wrap up our migration from Hyper-V to XCP-ng which we were keeping for a few other specialty use cases. We still plan to use XOA for most backups, especially the Linux VMs, as long as we can get the immutability issues we're facing fixed.

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                                    acebmxer @redneckitguy
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                                    @redneckitguy
                                    File level restore works out of box but application restore ie Active Directory not so much. Still testing.

                                    Edit - The backup job from XCP-NG does not offer the option for Application aware backup. When backing up via the agent then yes but still two separate backups.

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                                      acebmxer @acebmxer
                                      last edited by acebmxer

                                      Correction XCP-NG backups are Application aware... Just not accessible from the right click menu on the backup. If you click from the menu bar at top it is available...

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                                        redneckitguy @acebmxer
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                                        @acebmxer
                                        Thanks! Hopefully they will add this... one step at a time, but nice to see XCP-ng getting more support from third parties.

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                                          nikade Top contributor @acebmxer
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                                          @acebmxer said in Veeam backup with XCP NG:

                                          and when not accidentally routing the backups... save 6 min..

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                                          Amazing, that's really impressive. Backups has always taken a long time with XOA once you start to backup a lot of VM's so I hope this will improve the overall backup performance 🙂

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