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      Pilow @Bastien Nollet
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      @Bastien-Nollet here is the config of the BACKUP job :
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      to the remote DC1-REMOTE01

      you would expect 10 points after 1month+ of forver incremental backups ?
      7 daily, 2 weekly, and 1 monthly

      but I only get 7 points in this remote (the last 7 days)

      I have a mirror copy job, 14 points retention, no LTR, to a remote called DC2-REMOTE01-COPYDC1, i get my exact 14 points.

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      so i guess, i do not profit from LTR ?
      is that because i didnt put something in DAYS ? or because my retention is >1 ?
      backups are executed daily by SEQUENCE.

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        Forza @Bastien Nollet
        last edited by Forza

        @Bastien-Nollet said in Full backup - new long-retention options:

        @Forza As your backup tasks executes only once a week, the schedule retention is redundant with using "Number of weekly backups kept" of LTR.

        If keeping the last 52 weekly backups of this job is what you want, I recommend you to set the schedule retention to 1, and the number of weekly backups kept to 52. This way, if you happen to execute this backup job manually (in addition to its schedule), it will not delete the oldest backups.

        Thanks for the feedback. I included that difference (52 in the schedule and 12 in the LTR) on purpose in the screenshot because I wanted to know what takes presendece here, the 12 weeks, or 52 weeks.

        I have not yet enabled LTR, but am considering it for this backup job so that I can keep 52 weeks, 24 months and 5 yearly.

        Now I wonder if each dailym weekly, monthly and yearly option are sequential to the previous, or if all counts from 0?

        Will it mean that I have:

        • year 1: 52 weekly
        • year 2: 12 monthly
        • year 3: 12 monthly
        • year 4: 1 yearly
        • year 5: 1 yearly
        • year 6: 1 yearly
        • year 7: 1 yearly
        • year 8: 1 yearly

        Or will I get:

        • year 1: 52 weekly + 12 monthly + 1 yearly (at the end of year 1)
        • year 2: 12 monthly + 1 yearly
        • year 3: 1 yearly
        • year 4: 1 yearly
        • year 5: 1 yearly
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        • Bastien NolletB Offline
          Bastien Nollet Vates 🪐 XO Team @Pilow
          last edited by

          Hi @Pilow,

          You're indeed supposed to have more backups kept. (probably 9, as the backup of the current week is already kept by the schedule's retention).

          We'll try to reproduce the problem on our side to see what's going on and fix it, but it will be a bit long as testing it requires a lot of waiting.

          Thanks for the feedback, it will help us improve the feature.

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          • Bastien NolletB Offline
            Bastien Nollet Vates 🪐 XO Team @Forza
            last edited by

            Hi @Forza,

            The first list is the correct one.
            For instance, a single backup can satisfy both the monthly and yearly criteria.

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              Pilow @Bastien Nollet
              last edited by

              @Bastien-Nollet by default what day of day/week/month/year is selected for the LTR point ?

              You said we cannot choose for now, but you could give us the actual recipe ?

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              • Bastien NolletB Offline
                Bastien Nollet Vates 🪐 XO Team @Pilow
                last edited by

                @Pilow

                This is supposed to be the first day of the year, of the month, etc... But we just noticed a bug that makes LTR keep backups from the end of month, end of week, etc.

                A fix is on the way.

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                • ForzaF Offline
                  Forza @Bastien Nollet
                  last edited by

                  @Bastien-Nollet Some countries use different days for first of the week, This should perhaps be configurable for such users? I prefer Monday as first of the week 🙂

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                  • Bastien NolletB Offline
                    Bastien Nollet Vates 🪐 XO Team @Forza
                    last edited by

                    @Forza

                    We plan to make it configurable during the upcoming months.

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                    • Bastien NolletB Offline
                      Bastien Nollet Vates 🪐 XO Team
                      last edited by

                      A fix has been merged on master, now the LTR should properly pick the first backup of each day, week, month and year instead of the last one: https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/pull/9180

                      fbeauchamp opened this pull request in vatesfr/xen-orchestra

                      closed fix(backups): long term retention taking the most recent values #9180

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                        ph7 @Bastien Nollet
                        last edited by ph7

                        @Bastien-Nollet
                        I have tested it since the 05c6f release and it seems to work fine

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                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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