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    • florentF Offline
      florent Vates 🪐 XO Team
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      @wmazren said in VDI not showing in XO 5 from Source.:

             is-a-snapshot ( RO): false
               snapshot-of ( RO): d31f2db0-be21-4794-b858-1bea357869c8
      

      this disk is now recognized as a snapshot by xo
      is it a disk from a restored VM ?

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        abudef
        last edited by abudef

        Hi,
        I’m afraid I’ve encountered the same problem:

        • Xen Orchestra, commit 0b52a
          e9d960d3-930c-4b81-bff1-50644a62be78-image.png

        • v6
          da2e5259-fb1b-4703-bf99-ca7828bed2c9-image.png

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          Pilow @abudef
          last edited by Pilow

          😕

          I am also impacted on some SRs, latest XOA 6.0.3

          In the VM DISKS tab, no disk
          e64c1143-5c66-4918-bf09-255868da37a8-{14091121-3DE9-4E4C-8DC6-ACAE262294BA}.png

          VM is running OK. can snapshot, can backup.

          on the impacted SR (local RAID5 for this one) I noted that there is no more green progress bar as if SR is empty, but showing 47 VDIs and occupied space OK :
          557e3927-604f-443e-9dad-4d0249bb2813-{BAE0069B-4449-4EBF-8262-E9BCDD7E4A2C}.png

          DISKS tab of the SR is showing the VDIs on the running VMs :
          38be29c7-0ec4-44b2-909a-bec1f8f1bf71-{48C0989B-A413-45C9-BF28-87DA09CB8BEA}.png

          as @danp asked, check of params on one impacted VDI & VBD :

          # xe vdi-param-list uuid=a81ecd87-3788-4528-819d-7d7c03aa6c61
          uuid ( RO)                    : a81ecd87-3788-4528-819d-7d7c03aa6c61
                        name-label ( RW): xxx-xxx-xxxxxx_sda
                  name-description ( RW):
                     is-a-snapshot ( RO): false
                       snapshot-of ( RO): f9cbd30f-a261-4b95-97db-b6846147634a
                         snapshots ( RO): cb65b96a-bed9-4e9a-82d3-e73b5aed546d
                     snapshot-time ( RO): 20250912T17:38:57Z
                allowed-operations (SRO): snapshot; clone
                current-operations (SRO):
                           sr-uuid ( RO): b1b80611-7223-c829-8953-6aa2bf5865b3
                     sr-name-label ( RO): xxx-xx-xxxxxxx RAID5 Local
                         vbd-uuids (SRO): 51bb1797-c6c7-50f0-13a9-dfaad4c99d90
                   crashdump-uuids (SRO):
                      virtual-size ( RO): 68719476736
              physical-utilisation ( RO): 30686765056
                          location ( RO): a81ecd87-3788-4528-819d-7d7c03aa6c61
                              type ( RO): User
                          sharable ( RO): false
                         read-only ( RO): false
                      storage-lock ( RO): false
                           managed ( RO): true
               parent ( RO) [DEPRECATED]: <not in database>
                           missing ( RO): false
                      is-tools-iso ( RO): false
                      other-config (MRW):
                     xenstore-data (MRO):
                         sm-config (MRO): vhd-parent: daeee201-3891-443e-8bdb-b00ed1051279; host_OpaqueRef:3e7283ba-5a42-1881-958a-9f96b71fb98f: RW; read-caching-enabled-on-f2868da5-4509-43d7-9ef9-2bb3857e1ba5: true
                           on-boot ( RW): persist
                     allow-caching ( RW): false
                   metadata-latest ( RO): false
                  metadata-of-pool ( RO): <not in database>
                              tags (SRW):
                       cbt-enabled ( RO): true
          
          
          # xe vbd-param-list uuid=51bb1797-c6c7-50f0-13a9-dfaad4c99d90
          uuid ( RO)                        : 51bb1797-c6c7-50f0-13a9-dfaad4c99d90
                               vm-uuid ( RO): 108ad69b-1fa5-d80b-fb16-a62509ad642a
                         vm-name-label ( RO): xxx-xxx-xxxxxx
                              vdi-uuid ( RO): a81ecd87-3788-4528-819d-7d7c03aa6c61
                        vdi-name-label ( RO): xxx-xxx-xxxxxx_sda
                    allowed-operations (SRO): attach; unpause; pause
                    current-operations (SRO):
                                 empty ( RO): false
                                device ( RO): xvda
                            userdevice ( RW): 0
                              bootable ( RW): false
                                  mode ( RW): RW
                                  type ( RW): Disk
                           unpluggable ( RW): false
                    currently-attached ( RO): true
                            attachable ( RO): true
                          storage-lock ( RO): false
                           status-code ( RO): 0
                         status-detail ( RO):
                    qos_algorithm_type ( RW):
                  qos_algorithm_params (MRW):
              qos_supported_algorithms (SRO):
                          other-config (MRW): owner:
                           io_read_kbs ( RO): 0.000
                          io_write_kbs ( RO): 93.752
          
          

          VDI seen as a snapshot...
          in XO6, VDI appears ok.
          we have an internal webapp that access by API and disk appears OK, like in XO6.

          seems to be rooted on the SR, not the VMs, as the entire SR is impacted... ? not all SRs in this XOA instance are impacted (have other RAID5 local SR and iSCSI SRs)
          all VMs hosted on this SR have invisible disks in XO5

          have an XO CE attached to same servers, and same behavior, invisible disks
          9aaad5b2-c8e3-4057-a47d-8da39b5a4664-{9E011831-A228-4A0C-B12C-9EE224398B8E}.png

          edit :
          on GENERAL tab of an impacted VM :
          a66f9b9e-b71a-4219-a8eb-68506284b47a-{4B5E10D1-2240-40E9-8EA4-88A41E97C738}.png
          we can see a 0Bytes VDI, but activity
          b7b73755-7bcf-4d9d-afd5-79dfa913cda9-{6EA81F62-B519-4711-A810-519D270D3102}.png

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            Pilow @Pilow
            last edited by

            tried to deploy a NEW vm for testing purpose on an impacted SR :
            31059047-0663-4438-8131-dae10fdece65-{876A5496-1224-46ED-B5FB-282584D4CBAD}.png

            and it appears ! it's the only VDI visible, there are OTHER vms on this same SR that have invisible disks

            all as if nothing
            10f77f41-6599-4ead-b7cb-101c5dc7f076-{DD14C76B-144E-4A0C-B985-01EBE178A1A0}.png

            I guess we could migrate the impacted VMs out of this SR and back, and it would correct the issue !

            does that help ?!

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            • olivierlambertO Offline
              olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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              @anthoineb or someone from the @team-storage, you might want to take a look (IDK if it's a known problem internally)

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                anthoineb Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @olivierlambert
                last edited by

                @olivierlambert Yes, we saw this before, we are investigating.

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                • olivierlambertO Offline
                  olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
                  last edited by

                  Thanks!

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                    wilsonqanda
                    last edited by

                    Hello All,

                    Found some roundabout solutions you may want to try:
                    https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/101370

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                      Pilow @wilsonqanda
                      last edited by Pilow

                      @wilsonqanda tried your workaround on a halted VM, and it worked !
                      If i snapshot -> disk still invisible
                      delete snapshot - > disk still invisible

                      but

                      if i snapshot --> disk still invisible
                      revert snapshot (with take snapshot option) --> disk APPEAR again
                      delete the two snapshots -> disks still there

                      edit : even without the take snapshot before revert, it is working, tried on another VM

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                        wilsonqanda @Pilow
                        last edited by wilsonqanda

                        @Pilow Lol glad I was able to help. Its only if you have a few VMs having hundreds will be a nightmare... giod luck to those that has that issue. In the meantime I will use the method I mention for now. 🙂

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                          Pilow @wilsonqanda
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                          @wilsonqanda @anthoineb @olivierlambert

                          we are now impacted on a SR that didn't have the problem... now all disks are invisible and DASHBOARD/HEALTH show some strange dates on base copies...
                          d5265b22-03b4-4ae0-8b78-ee531b4fb273-{3A056D6D-FEF9-49E4-8480-C63F654E4BF0}.png

                          halt/snap/revert correct the issue but needs to be done on each VM

                          all VDIs seem to be regrouped strangely on unique base copy
                          5dc3b390-4068-4c2c-a871-89c5f8f32005-{CDACDC19-0C4E-4674-BCAE-37F75C7528A2}.png

                          there is something seriously wrong happening 😞

                          no impact on production of VMs though, just management issues in XOA web ui 😢
                          even backups are OK.

                          halp.

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                            Pilow @Pilow
                            last edited by Pilow

                            i could be wrong but in

                            /usr/local/lib/node_modules/xo-server/dist/xapi-object-to-xo.mjs
                            

                            I see a lot of

                            if (obj.is_a_snapshot || obj.$snapshot_of !== undefined)
                            

                            seems to be a way of managing both "old version" and "new version" (or "broader version") to define if a VDI is a snapshot
                            there has been an evolution in the code at some point ?

                            and someone somewhere in recent updates (10 dec) forgot the || on some important action

                            my recent SR problem appeared when I was snapshoting/deleting VDI/reverting snapshot
                            all VMs suddenly didn't have visible VDIs anymore on the whole SR.

                            I could be wrong, but the fact that ALL VDIs are now seen as snapshot seems smelly with this ||

                            1c4ed798-5ec8-4bb7-9ab1-df34bbe15e58-image.png

                            https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/commit/85596da79217070bf4431135bbb5b0d2cf04e45b

                            0 spacotte-vates committed to vatesfr/xen-orchestra
                            fix(xo-server): improve handling of xapi snapshots (#9231)
                            
                            In some cases, when converting an xapi object into an xo object, the xapi.is_a_snapshot param may be set to false even tho the xapi.snapshotOf refers to another xapi object. Handle this case better.
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                              wilsonqanda @Pilow
                              last edited by wilsonqanda

                              @Pilow now that you mention that everything is seen as snapshot i remember all my ISO are seen as snapshots too... so most iso cannot be mounted until i drag them in a folder then put them back in same folder so XO could reprocess all the iso correctly. This might be a related issue to all the snapshots for the VMs.

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                                Pilow @wilsonqanda
                                last edited by Pilow

                                @wilsonqanda strangely my ISOs were not impacted, except for the default XCP TOOLS iso that seems gone

                                the "base copy" regroup bug on homepage of the SR, and the orphan base copies in the DASHBOARD/HEALTH seems to be linked to same problem

                                we have much fast clones VMs depending on those base copies seen as orphan

                                we are narrowing on the problem, just need the dev to level it, have faith 😃

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                                  wilsonqanda @Pilow
                                  last edited by wilsonqanda

                                  @Pilow Check the iso does it have a snapshot icon in the drive?

                                  Next it show up fine until u want to create a vm in the new vm pg it think they are snapshots and you cant select the ISOs. This is when the problem arise.

                                  Yep the dev here are super reaponsive. Have been a long term user and here and love their support 🙂 . I mostly just been playing with things and learn so much by tinkering 🙂

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                                    Pilow @wilsonqanda
                                    last edited by

                                    @wilsonqanda it's an SMB iso SR on my end, I think this is why it is not impacted

                                    can't snapshot a file on Microsoft SMB share 😃

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                                      wilsonqanda @Pilow
                                      last edited by wilsonqanda

                                      @Pilow my is SMB too but it saw the issue. I use windows to login and drag all iso into a new created folder in the iso folder and drag it back out delete the newly created folder and all my iso is back to normal. It was a quick thing.

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                                        Pilow @wilsonqanda
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                                        @wilsonqanda HAHA. problem resolved instantly for me on last SR I had the troubles
                                        6593f43e-d85b-4865-8797-e9f949e07b88-{B255D2FD-7E51-4E65-B85F-05A24582BBF0}.png

                                        playing with the "rescan all ISO SRs" made the guest tools iso reappear

                                        AND ALL MY OTHER VDIs ON THIS SR/HOST that were invisible

                                        donnnnn't ask me HOW... 😄

                                        01c9cf72-44fb-4e96-abd5-c39290d20784-{535A410A-4F18-4281-A1D9-23113829E6C4}.png

                                        but this trick didn't work on other local RAID5 SR that have the problem 😕

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                                        • GheppyG Offline
                                          Gheppy
                                          last edited by Gheppy

                                          I have the same problem with 2 servers.
                                          The solution for me was to:

                                          • migrate the VM between servers with different SR or to a 3rd one.
                                          • export-import, virtual machines that are not that important and may have downtime.
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                                            Pilow @Gheppy
                                            last edited by

                                            @Gheppy if you can have downtime snapshot/revert works

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