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      MajorP93 @olivierlambert
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      @olivierlambert No.
      I reverted to Node 20 as previously mentioned.
      I was using Node 24 before but reverted to Node 20 as I hoped it would "fix" the issue.
      Using Node 20 it takes longer for these issues to arise but in the end they arise.

      3 of the users in this thread that encounter the issue said that they are using XOA.
      As XOA also uses Node 20, I think most people that reported this issue actually use Node 20.

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        olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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        Thanks for the recap!

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          flakpyro @olivierlambert
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          @olivierlambert Using the prebuilt XOA appliance which reports:

          [08:39 23] xoa@xoa:~$ node  --version
          v20.18.3
          
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            john.c @flakpyro
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            @flakpyro said in backup mail report says INTERRUPTED but it's not ?:

            @olivierlambert Using the prebuilt XOA appliance which reports:

            [08:39 23] xoa@xoa:~$ node  --version
            v20.18.3
            

            @majorp93 @pilow Can you please capture some heap snapshots from during backup runs of XOA via NodeJS?

            Then compare them to each other, they need to be in the following order:-

            1. Snapshot before backup
            2. Snapshot following first backup
            3. Snapshot following second backup
            4. Snapshot following third backup
            5. Snapshot following subsequent backups to get to Node.js OOM (or as close as you’re willing to risk)

            These will require that XOA (or XOCE) is started with Node.js heap snapshots enabled. Then open in a Chromium based browser the following url:-
            chrome://inspect

            The above URL will require using the browser’s DevTools features!

            Another option is to integrate and enable use of Clinic.js (clinic heapprofiler), or configure node to use node-heapdump when it reaches a threshold amount.

            Once your got those heap dumps your looking for the following:-

            • Object types that grow massively between the snapshots.
            • Large arrays or maps of backup-related objects (VMs, snapshots, jobs, tasks, etc.).
            • Retained objects whose “retainers” point to long-lived structures (global, caches, singletons).

            These will likely help to pin down what and where in the backup code, the memory leak is located.

            Once have these a heap snapshot diff showing which object type (or types) growing by a stated size per backup will finally help the Vates developers fix this issue.

            @florent I left the above for the original reporters of the memory leak issue, and/or yourselves.

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              MajorP93 @john.c
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              @john.c If a Xen Orchestra developer asks for logs / heap snapshots I will be happy to provide them.
              Ideally they should tell us what is needed from us to debug this.

              That being said I am not entirely sure they are currently working on this as XO team has not been very vocal here.

              Looking at Github repository commits indicates that other things are currently being prioritized over this crucial backup stability issue.

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                florent Vates 🪐 XO Team
                last edited by florent

                we are trying to reproduce it here, without success for now
                It would be good for us too if we can identify what cause this before the upcoming release ( thursday )

                for example here my xoa at home , seems quite ok running by itself :

                68cb6a77-fc52-4a8a-91e6-88c46d0f55cd-image.png

                to be fair the debug is not helped by the fact that we have one big process, with so much object that changes that exploring and pinpointing exactly what is growing is tricky ( or we may not look at the right place)

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                  Pilow @florent
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                  @florent do you have (heavy?) use of backup jobs on your XOA ?
                  we all noticed this because of correlation between backup jobs & memory growth

                  I do have all my backup jobs through XO PROXIES though, and XOA still explodes in RAM Usage...

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                    MathieuRA Vates 🪐 XO Team @Pilow
                    last edited by MathieuRA

                    Could you try disabling XO6?
                    In a configuration file, enable XO5 as the default version and ensure that XO6 is inaccessible (for example, by using an invalid path or removing the corresponding entry in the configuration). This will help determine if the issue is related to XO6/REST API.

                    https://docs.xen-orchestra.com/configuration#using-xo-5-as-the-default-interface

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                      florent Vates 🪐 XO Team @Pilow
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                      @Pilow said in backup mail report says INTERRUPTED but it's not ?:

                      @florent do you have (heavy?) use of backup jobs on your XOA ?
                      we all noticed this because of correlation between backup jobs & memory growth

                      I do have all my backup jobs through XO PROXIES though, and XOA still explodes in RAM Usage...

                      I back up a only few VM on this one , it was to illustrate that we try to reproduce it with a scope small enough to improve the situation

                      is the memory stable on the proxy ?

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                        MajorP93 @florent
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                        @florent In my case I have 4 backup jobs. 1 full, 2 delta (1 onsite, 1 offsite), 1 mirror.
                        106 VMs are being backed up by these jobs.
                        In my case that setup clearly shows the RAM issue. I do not know if it can be replicated in a very small setup.
                        Sometimes multiple backup jobs run at the same time. It appears that backup jobs running in parallel make the issue occur faster.

                        @mathieura Thanks for the hint! I can imagine that this could possibly change something in this regard as I did not have any issues with this exact backup job configuration some time ago. The issues started to appear somewhere in december so it could be related to the XO6 release. I will try what you suggested and report back.

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                          ph7
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                          I also have this problem in my XO-CE (ronivay-script) at home
                          I get the mail report after 4 days
                          A reboot resets the memory

                          the XO-CE have 3.1 GB and the Control domain memory have 2 GB
                          Node v24.13.1
                          Running Continuous Replication and Delta Backups

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