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    • gduperreyG
      gduperrey Vates πŸͺ XCP-ng Team
      last edited by

      The storage and XAPI teams are currently investigating the issues that have been reported.

      There is no final solution yet, but we are getting closer. Unfortunately, there is no ETA at this time.

      Thank you very much for all your testing and feedback! πŸ™‚

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      • olivierlambertO
        olivierlambert Vates πŸͺ Co-Founder CEO
        last edited by olivierlambert

        Thanks everyone for testing! As you can all see here, it’s been extremely useful

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        • acebmxerA
          acebmxer
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            lmolina Vates πŸͺ XCP-ng Team
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            New packages in xcp-ng-testing for the next XCP-ng 8.3 LTS maintenance update

            This is a follow-up of the the previous post and addresses the issue reported by our testers.

            First of all, a huge thanks to all testers who allowed us to catch this backup issue early:
            @acebmxer, @jr-m4, @bufanda, @flakpyro, @Andrew.

            We decided to revert the change that improves the performance of xapi-nbd since it caused the backup issue. This change will be reworked and refined, then presented to you again in a future update, without this issue. While investigating, we also found a bug in blktap: in rare cases, the process handling a VM disk (tapdisk) could crash during a backup and leave the disk impossible to detach. The new blktap version fixes it.

            Versions

            • blktap: 3.55.5-12.2.xcpng8.3 -> blktap-3.55.5-12.3.xcpng8.3
            • xapi: 26.1.21-1.1.xcpng8.3 -> 26.1.21-1.2.xcpng8.3

            Test on XCP-ng 8.3

            yum clean metadata --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing,xcp-ng-candidates
            yum update --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing,xcp-ng-candidates
            reboot
            

            If you reverted the previous candidates with yum history undo, update normally with the commands above. Note that downgrading is not recommended. If you disabled NBD in your backup jobs as a workaround, please enable it again after the update.

            The usual update rules apply: pool coordinator first, etc.

            What to test

            If you have already carried out the initial updates and performed the tests mentioned in our previous post, please confirm that the XO backups are now back to a working state.

            If you did not run the initial update and have not yet performed any tests, please be sure to review the "what to test" section of the the previous post.

            Test window before official release of the updates

            ~7 days

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            • acebmxerA
              acebmxer @lmolina
              last edited by Danp

              @lmolina

              of course i just downgraded again prior to this release... Sorry for the post. This was assisted with AI. I was also trying to do this while at work 😞 . I tried to verify this was not caused be my actions or configuration. If this is the results of upgrading and downgrading then everyelse use this a learning point.

              [13:10 xcp-ng-disjqdnc ~]# yum history
              Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
              ID     | Command line             | Date and time    | Action(s)      | Altered
              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  16 | update --enablerepo=xcp- | 2026-10-27 13:04 | Update         |   35 EE
                  15 | history undo 14          | 2026-10-27 10:37 | Downgrade      |   35 EE
                  14 | update --enablerepo=xcp- | 2026-10-22 19:00 | Update         |   35 EE
                  13 | update --disablerepo=* - | 2026-10-22 15:40 | Update         |    1   
                  12 | history undo 11          | 2026-10-22 13:37 | Downgrade      |   35 EE
                  11 | update --enablerepo=xcp- | 2026-10-22 05:58 | Update         |   35 EE
                  10 | update --disablerepo=* - | 2026-10-13 13:13 | Update         |    6   
                   9 | update --disablerepo=* - | 2026-10-05 15:04 | Update         |   20   
                   8 | update --enablerepo=xcp- | 2026-10-01 09:12 | Update         |   45 EE
                   7 | update --disablerepo=* - | 2026-09-08 16:06 | Update         |    6   
                   6 | update --enablerepo=xcp- | 2026-08-26 08:39 | Update         |   23 EE
                   5 | update --enablerepo=xcp- | 2026-08-14 13:23 | I, U           |   53 EE
                   4 | update                   | 2026-07-28 10:46 | Update         |    5   
                   3 | update --enablerepo=xcp- | 2026-07-10 11:27 | Update         |   23 EE
                   2 | install -y /root/twinsto | 2026-07-05 20:16 | Install        |   12   
                   1 | update --disablerepo=* - | 2026-07-05 01:56 | I, O, U        |  138 EE
              

              history list

              updates installed no issues. I did a full backup job prior to new updates. after updates I did a delta backup. (vms are in VHD format)

              migrated VMS back to QCOW2 and ran another backup. Because of migration this was a full backup..

              @stormi @lmolina

              Ran into a massive storage deadlock testing this batch of candidates on my NFS setups with Mellanox ConnectX links.

              Here is the exact timeline and raw outputs of what went down:

              1. Clean baseline: Rolled back previous stuff via yum history undo so the host was at a completely clean slate first.
              2. Pre-test: Ran a full backup on standard VHD layout on the stable build. Zero issues, finished perfectly fine.
              3. The update: Upgraded to the testing candidate repo (ID 16 in my history output above).
              4. The trigger: Cleared a delta backup right after, then kicked off a full backup job. No other out-of-band tasks or live migrations were happening.

              The Breakdown:
              Mid-way through that full VHD backup, the entire storage layer completely locked up.

              • Toolstack went blind: xe task-list was completely blank. The host totally lost track of the job it was supposed to be running.
              • VMs deadlocked: Every user VM instantly frozen into a hard Blocked/Halted (B H) state. Trying a low-level xl destroy just turned them into permanent un-killable zombie domains (D P H).
              [13:33 xcp-ng-rngyaiub ~]# xl destroy 1
              [13:33 xcp-ng-rngyaiub ~]# list_domains
              id |                                 uuid |  state
               0 | 2083b5bd-7878-4598-960f-bb425814d338 |     R 
               1 | 49f51614-c105-4fea-3103-566613ec79f2 | D P  H
               2 | dcbfaff1-d782-b42b-6eed-3d6b6d1ca032 | D P  H
               3 | 8cc17a78-ef65-1c06-4ac1-8e56b609d714 | D P  H
               4 | 2f724b50-5b16-9975-839b-fd85dd8ed065 | D P  H
              

              Hardware / Config Diagnostics:
              Before pointing fingers at the candidate code, I checked if my Mellanox links or the network switch choked under the backup stream load. Ran ethtool immediately following recovery and the physical interfaces are pristine:

              [14:16 xcp-ng-disjqdnc ~]# ethtool -S eth1 | grep -E "discard|drop|filter|error"
                   rx_xdp_drop: 0
                   tx_queue_dropped: 0
                   rx_oversize_pkts_sw_drop: 0
                   rx_pet_hdr_lookup_drop: 0
                   rx_pet_mdata_lookup_drop: 0
                   rx_xsk_xdp_drop: 0
                   rx_xsk_oversize_pkts_sw_drop: 0
                   rx_crc_errors_phy: 0
                   rx_in_range_len_errors_phy: 0
                   rx_discards_phy: 0
                   tx_discards_phy: 0
                   tx_errors_phy: 0
                   rx_prio0_discards: 0
                   rx_prio1_discards: 0
                   rx_prio2_discards: 0
                   rx_prio3_discards: 0
                   rx_prio4_discards: 0
                   rx_prio5_discards: 0
                   rx_prio6_discards: 0
                   rx_prio7_discards: 0
                   tx_pause_storm_error_events: 0
              
              [14:18 xcp-ng-disjqdnc ~]# ethtool -k eth1 | grep -i vlan
              rx-vlan-offload: on
              tx-vlan-offload: on
              rx-vlan-filter: on
              vlan-challenged: off [fixed]
              tx-vlan-stag-hw-insert: on
              rx-vlan-stag-hw-parse: off [fixed]
              rx-vlan-stag-filter: on [fixed]
              

              Conclusion:
              Network layout config problems, buffer overflows, or silent packet drops are 100% ruled out here (all hardware discards are flat zero).

              This wasn't a user mistake or an accidental configuration mismatch. The new sm or blktap components hit a deep kernel lockup handling the multi-stream VHD storage exports. The file locks deadlocked the kernel handles so badly that the hosts ignored standard and low-level CLI commands entirely, forcing a hard out-of-band physical power cycle of the XCP-ng hosts and the TrueNAS storage server just to clear the uninterruptible I/O sleep queue.

              I haven't touched a thing since getting the hardware back up and verifying what choked. The system is sitting exactly as it is right now. Let me know what specific debugging paths you want me to look at or what logs you need from that window to trace this down.

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                Andrew Top contributor @lmolina
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                @lmolina Ok, this time all is working (so far).

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                • gduperreyG
                  gduperrey Vates πŸͺ XCP-ng Team @acebmxer
                  last edited by

                  @acebmxer said:

                  Conclusion:
                  Network layout config problems, buffer overflows, or silent packet drops are 100% ruled out here (all hardware discards are flat zero).

                  This wasn't a user mistake or an accidental configuration mismatch. The new sm or blktap components hit a deep kernel lockup handling the multi-stream VHD storage exports. The file locks deadlocked the kernel handles so badly that the hosts ignored standard and low-level CLI commands entirely, forcing a hard out-of-band physical power cycle of the XCP-ng hosts and the TrueNAS storage server just to clear the uninterruptible I/O sleep queue.

                  I haven't touched a thing since getting the hardware back up and verifying what choked. The system is sitting exactly as it is right now. Let me know what specific debugging paths you want me to look at or what logs you need from that window to trace this down.

                  @storage could someone please take a look and help analyze this issue?

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                    flakpyro @gduperrey
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                    Installed on my usual test hosts once again. This time i made sure to test backup job behaviour multiple times across the same two pools that gave me trouble last time. All backup job runs (4 runs on one pool, 2 on another) have been successful.

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                      jr-m4
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                      Updated both test-pools: old-xcp-dev & new-xcp-dev

                      Backups seem to be working fine. But I'm noticing some warnings now (See below). However, these can very well be the result of clumsy and crude troubleshooting with fixing the previous test-release symptoms.

                      Dashboard/Health doesn't report any issues. And I'm not seing issues with the VMs in their running state.
                      Backups are seemingly clearing HealthChecks as well.

                      I will update this post in a living matter. So to not spam the forum-thread with many small posts.

                      Symptom 1:
                      image.jpeg

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                        dinhngtu Vates πŸͺ XCP-ng Team @acebmxer
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                        @acebmxer Hello, could you look into the xen and kernel logs for errors?

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                        • acebmxerA
                          acebmxer @dinhngtu
                          last edited by

                          @dinhngtu

                          Here are the extracted Xen hypervisor, Dom0 kernel, and toolstack/storage manager logs tracking the exact window of the NFS storage deadlock on Oct 27 between 13:00 and 15:00.

                          During this window, xe task-list was completely blank, and user VMs went into an uninterruptible B H state (turning into zombie D P H domains upon an xl destroy attempt). Physical hardware interfaces showed zero errors or discards via ethtool.

                          Looking closely at crash_window_SMlog.log, there is a clear locking deadlock right at the start of the backup run (13:00:38):
                          "Failed to lock /var/lock/sm/96fd7d5a-1985-80be-5776-6ace7f651a41/sr on first attempt, blocked by PID 86371"

                          It looks like the parallel multi-stream VHD storage exports/NBD operations lock-contended the SR control handles so badly that the underlying sm/blktap layer deadlocked entirely.

                          I have attached the full log bundle containing:

                          1. xen_hypervisor.log (Xen ring buffer / xl dmesg)
                          2. crash_window_kernel.log (Dom0 kernel events from /var/log/kern.log)
                          3. crash_window_SMlog.log (Storage manager tracks from /var/log/SMlog.1)
                          4. xapi_crash.log (Toolstack logs from /var/log/xensource.log.1)

                          https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uCnWXArfgyvS1gPl3mViUl8G1-DBOGzD?usp=sharing - due to file size and type i could not upload here. So i posted it on my google drive.

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