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    XCP-ng 8.3 updates announcements and testing

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      Andrew Top contributor @lmolina
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      @lmolina Updates ran fine, but I'm having CR backup problems too... Mostly ran fine, but I now have 3 stuck with VBD.unplug_force. I can't get them to clear. I'll have to try harder before I revert updates.

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        flakpyro @rzr
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        @rzr I was worried about this because of XAPI. Luckily i have a host thats not currently running any VMs so i tried it there first hoping it was a small enough change that i could get away with it. Good to know i could have just disabled NBD for now though!

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          acebmxer @rzr
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          @rzr said:

          @acebmxer said:
          (...)
          yum history undo <ID> --enablerepo=xcp-ng-testing
          (...)

          Your're lucky ! this is a risky operation we don't recommend to downgrade because some packages like xapi are not handling this properly, prefer other workarounds if there are any (like disabling nbd until @storage team suggest a better option)

          Let me thank you again @flakpyro for this regression report it is very valuable to us,

          I didn't run the commands I stated. As I was asking first.. I did the command @flakpryo

          Of course this is was before i saw your post. As this is the home lab i am fine with if it blows up. but for others this is good to know.

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            rzr Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
            last edited by

            We have just released security updates for ca-certificates.

            Full details are available on the blog:
            https://xcp-ng.org/blog/2026/10/22/october-2026-security-updates-3-for-xcp-ng-8-3-lts/

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              Greg_E
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              Ok, so what's the scoop here? Safe to roll this out or wait a few days? I just saw the notice in my XO that there are updates and I don't want to wreck my system right now after fixing a few other "issues".

              [edit] I see this is just the certificate update so pushing it out and listening to servers reboot.

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                acebmxer @rzr
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                @rzr

                I reinstalled the updates, and confirm backups work with NBD disablled in backup job. - I missed the part about NBD in the notes..

                However the task stay at 0% while i can see traffic on my trunas..

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                  jr-m4 @jr-m4
                  last edited by jr-m4

                  jr-m4 said:

                  Updated two dev-pools successfully!

                  new-xcp-dev: 2x Dell Inc. PowerEdge R650xs
                  old-xcp-dev: 3x Dell Inc. PowerEdge R350 (HA)

                  I even mistankenly did a wrong updating order on old-xcp-dev. And neglected to disable HA before updating, leading to two hosts being updated and promoting the next master. And by chance the last master was the non-updated one. Here I disabled HA, but couldn't promote another master (not unexpected)... Post update, and everything seems to be good anyways. And HA re-enabled successfully

                  Note:
                  No further testing other than the hosts booting and showing good life signs have been done, yet.

                  I'm now also seeing issues with backups being stuck for multiple hours.
                  Update: Correction. I'm now having issues with almost everything on both pools.

                  • migrations
                  • snapshots
                  • changing status e.g. rebooting or hard shut down of VMs
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                    Andrew Top contributor @lmolina
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                    @lmolina @olivierlambert Sorry, but this update got ugly fast. CR backups got stuck. Migrations got stuck. VMs would not start any more. After reverting all the patches and rebooting all hosts I had several VMs that would not start again (including primary XO) because the VDIs stuck marked as activating. It took some time to fix them but at least there was no data loss. Some backups lost their snapshots and had to revert to full backups again.

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                      Emmanuel V Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team
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                      Some message formats changed between the two releases, so VMs started before the update (with an 11.3 tapdisk and tapback) can’t understand some of the changed commands. Rebooting XCP-ng or doing an RPU should work. Since not every command is affected, restarting tapback is usually enough: systemctl restart tapback.service
                      We're going to work to avoid that.

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                        jr-m4 @Emmanuel V
                        last edited by jr-m4

                        @Emmanuel-V

                        Rebooting hosts and/or VMs doesn't solve the problems.
                        As @andrew said. This one got ugly. But this is also why we test stuff

                        Update:
                        Doing a "Rescan all disks" on the SR (lvmohba), seems to help out a little bit. But not everything.
                        Some VMs were able to be started again. But others are still showing problems and erroring out

                        "The VDI is not available [opterr=['MAP_DUPLICATE_KEY', 'VDI', 'sm_config', 'OpaqueRef:7---------2c1b', 'activating']]",
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                          flakpyro @jr-m4
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                          @jr-m4 I had this issue on one of the pools i tested on as well and was able to fix the issue by following the fix here:
                          https://xcp-ng.org/forum/topic/10603/sr_backend_failure_46-the-vdi-is-not-available-not-detached-cleanly/3

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                            dthenot Vates 🪐 XCP-ng Team @flakpyro
                            last edited by

                            @flakpyro Hello,

                            It would be preferred to use another method.
                            You can use the resetvdis.py script in the /opt/xensource/sm/ to reset values instead,
                            using vdi-forget is unadvised in this case, it can cause issues by losing information that are stored in XAPI about VDIs.

                            /opt/xensource/sm/resetvdis.py single <VDI UUID>
                            
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                              jr-m4 @dthenot
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                              @dthenot said:

                              @flakpyro Hello,

                              It would be preferred to use another method.
                              You can use the resetvdis.py script in the /opt/xensource/sm/ to reset values instead,
                              using vdi-forget is unadvised in this case, it can cause issues by losing information that are stored in XAPI about VDIs.

                              /opt/xensource/sm/resetvdis.py single <VDI UUID>
                              

                              I was just about to look at maybe doing what @flakpyro suggested. More likely I would've just restored from backup. As this is dev-instances, and non-important.

                              But your resetvdis.pysuggestion solved it entirely! Thanks for the quick tip!

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                                jr-m4
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                                Now trying to see if pool works with generic operations.

                                Trying to do a RPR on new-xcp-dev. And I'm met with

                                Ofcourse there are no backups being run. They are even disabled right now. And the only active task happening is "Garbage collection" on the main SR.

                                pool.rollingReboot
                                {
                                  "pool": "1f16dad2---------------6c8b8b7",
                                  "bypassBackupCheck": false,
                                  "shutdownPinnedVms": false
                                }
                                {
                                  "code": "CANNOT_EVACUATE_HOST",
                                  "params": [
                                    "VM_LACKS_FEATURE,OpaqueRef:aa5210c4-a------------1b80-9bca5d0d0f8d|OPERATION_BLOCKED,OpaqueRef:c7a08---------------a0--------------9306,VM migration is blocked during backup"
                                  ],
                                  "call": {
                                    "duration": 23,
                                    "method": "host.assert_can_evacuate",
                                    "params": [
                                      "* session id *",
                                      "OpaqueRef:0145019c-2a32-13bb-5951-3bca9e59e63a"
                                    ]
                                  },
                                  "message": "CANNOT_EVACUATE_HOST(VM_LACKS_FEATURE,OpaqueRef:aa52-----------------------9bca5d0d0f8d|OPERATION_BLOCKED,OpaqueRef:c7a0------------------------306,VM migration is blocked during backup)",
                                  "name": "XapiError",
                                  "stack": "XapiError: CANNOT_EVACUATE_HOST(VM_LACKS_FEATURE,OpaqueRef:aa521-------------------8d|OPERATION_BLOCKED,OpaqueRef:c7a08c--------------------------9306,VM migration is blocked during backup)
                                    at XapiError.wrap (file:///opt/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/_XapiError.mjs:16:12)
                                    at file:///opt/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/transports/json-rpc.mjs:38:21
                                    at runNextTicks (node:internal/process/task_queues:65:5)
                                    at processImmediate (node:internal/timers:541:9)"
                                }
                                
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