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  • VMs, hosts, pools, networks and all other usual management tasks.

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    @lsouai-vates Duly noted. If amd when you do get a moment, could you have a look at https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/94297 and offer up any guidance on how I can stop the debug log entries and also the double timestamp entries in the audit.log file? Thank you.

  • ACLs, Self-service, Cloud-init, Load balancing...

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    @blackliner said in Sdn controller and physical network: @nikade How do you "pair" the XCP-ng SDN with your routing setup? You cant/dont, you'll have to setup each private network on the vyos router and then have the vm private network routed through it manually. For example if you have private network 1 with subnet 192.168.1.0/24 you'd have to add this network to the vyos router and assign 192.168.1.1/24 on the router. Then set 192.168.1.1 as default gateway in your vm's which uses this network. Then you'll setup ospf or bgp on the vyos router manually with your upstream border/core-router or firewall. If the subnet is a private subnet you'll need to setup NAT as well somewhere before it reaches internet to NAT traffic from 192.168.1.0/24.

  • All XO backup features: full and incremental, replication, mirrors...

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    found it , there was not one, but 2 bugs albeit small they were putting the xo backup in a incorrect state the fix is here, and will be merged as soon as possible and then released as a patch for xoa users https://github.com/vatesfr/xen-orchestra/pull/8780 really thank you everyone for the information fbeauchamp opened this pull request in vatesfr/xen-orchestra open fix(xapi): respect the config file setting for preferNbd #8780

  • Everything related to Xen Orchestra's REST API

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    olivierlambertO
    This page is being improved as we speak It shouldn't be in "Future improvements" because it's here

  • Terraform, Packer or any tool to do IaC

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    @olivierlambert @nathanael-h @Team-DevOps Please let me know if you have answers for any of the flollowing questions: Why JSON-RPC over websocket regularly returns not expected result for calls and what could be done with it? examples: method xo.getAllObjects sometimes returns empty result, but following: jsonrpc method params ------- ------ ------ 2.0 all @{type=enter; items=} On retry - everything is fine and we have all data jsonrpc result ------- ------ 2.0 @{bbdb1ed0-4c86-24ec-...=;..... method vm.copy sometimes returns only task with name_label host.get_server_certificate and no task async.vm.copy. Meanwhile copy operation is started in XEN Orchestra, so we have to separately search for the task currently running in all objects and if it is not there anymore suggest that it completed successfully. Afterwards we need to check if vm was copied and appeared in all objects. That is really frustrating as we have no info about successfully completed tasks in XEN - records just removed as nothing happen. most likely this happens due to other tasks being popped up in tasks at the same time and websocket call recives not its own responce, is it possible to workaround? What is correct syntax for JSON to run job.create method? Are there any article with supported methods for JSON-RPC calls and examples to use them? Calling for "system.getMethodsInfo" I can see "job.create": { "description": "Creates a new job from description object", "params": { "job": { "type": "object", "properties": { "userId": { "type": "string", "optional": true }, "name": { "type": "string", "optional": true }, "timeout": { "type": "number", "optional": true }, "type": { "type": "string" }, "key": { "type": "string" }, "method": { "type": "string" }, "paramsVector": { "type": "object", "properties": { "type": { "type": "string" }, "items": { "type": "array", "items": { "type": "object" } } }, "optional": true } } } }, "permission": "admin" }, But it is unclear what values should I provide to paramsVector and looking into the job created manually (in web interface) with method job.getall I can see 2 jobs [ { "type": "call", "name": "copyvm", "key": "generictask", "method": "vm.copy", "paramsvector": { "type": "crossproduct", "items": [ { "type": "set", "values": [ { "name": "nevm", "vm": "GUID", "sr": "GUID" } ] } ] }, "userid": "GUID", "id": "GUID" }, { "method": "vm.copy", "key": "vm.copy", "name": "copyvmjob", "type": "call", "userid": "GUID", "id": "GUID" } ] How can I create similar job myself if it is not possible to find out why vm.copy does not return async.vm.copy task info?
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    vm start delay - does it work yet?

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    @payback007 said in vm start delay - does it work yet?: unfortunately "start delay" is not working as expected. The function what you marked above is to change the start delay of an existing "vApp". Here is an example of my setup: [image: 1558128450595-04e7439d-6b92-4356-aa23-14d704588be3-grafik.png] The value whould change the "Delay interval" later by XOA, nothing else. Otherwise is vApp feature also not working on my XCP-ng installation, I think it was never really tested. If you want to implement start delays to your VM's you can follow this guide: define vApp for autostart in xcp-ng center including start order find out the uuid of the vApp: xe appliance-list write autostart script containing #!/bin/sh xe appliance-start uuid=uuid-autostart-vApp implement new systemd.service in /etc/systemd/system/autostart.service [Unit] Description=autostart script for boot VM After=graphical.target [Service] Type=simple ExecStart=/path/to/your/autostart-script.sh TimeoutStartSec=0 [Install] WantedBy=default.target enable the service systemctl enable autostart.service Editing of boot delay time is then possible via XOA which is already a nice feature at all for "fine tuning" or adapt if new VMs are added to the autostart vApp. @olivierlambert whould it make sense to open an additional feature request? vApp-implementation was several times discussed with no "final statement" I think. When I have a pool without HA, how could I use this script? I thought about setting the script on the master server. However, in a maintenance, where a second node becomes the master, will I have to recreate the script?
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    XO - Continuous Replication - unable to migrate

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    Starting XO error

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    @Danp It wasnt a VM. I dedicated a whole PC to debian and XO. But I was completely clueless as to what I was doing. I am off and running now though. Thank you
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    cleanVm: incorrect backup size in metadata

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    It looks like this issue occurs only when saving the backup to non-block storage. When saving to block storage ("Store backup as multiple data blocks instead of a whole VHD file: ON"), it does not, at least in my environment.
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    XOA Install Issues

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    @merango said in XOA Install Issues: @merango Hi DustineB, Thanks for the help, after looking at the BIO, I have a question around the management server. I have a spare windows 11 Pro PC that is running a Hyper-V Ubuntu 24.04.1 bare install. Can I follow your guide to install this as the MGMT server for my XCP-NG host on the same LAN? I'd prefer to manage it on a separate PC if possible and that would work nicely if that is possible? Of course you can, anywhere you can install Debian or Ubuntu can you install XO. Be it physical or virtual.
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    Issues with diskperformance of an migrated vm

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    I'm adding @dinhngtu in the loop in case we can makes sense of that, but it's really strange indeed.
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    XOCE - Console gor crazy after typing special char

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    @DustinB tried your command, it runs OK, restarted the vm hosting XOCE, but still have the same issue after typing an @ in console, char following are wrong
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    2CRSI BIOS update not available

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    For information : The downgrade change nothing. The only solution was to reinstall xcp with the upgrade option (even if it was up to date before the bios update) If we go back to the original problem, the latest version of the Bios changes nothing (there is no information about the BIOS on the Host page)
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    XOA Can't register, network issue

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    @Danp it turns out I had a typo that took me forever to find . . . 102 vs 192 in the gateway ip. The strange thing to me was that the internal networking was working (pings, connections, etc). But there's something in the xoa web site that could not make the connection to the server it was running on, which makes me think there is some kind of external communication going on for server connections. If xoa can ping the dom0 then why would it need the gateway to connect to it for the web interface? Anyway I fixed the typo after finding the error running ip monitor, and then everything works great. This was the 3rd or 4th install of xoa so I was getting a bit hurried . . . next morning it took 2 minutes to find the error. Now its registered and working.
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    XO Console: Modifier keys stuck, unable to enter passwords

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    @olivierlambert Can't wait. V6 Gui is really nice Most of my colleagues are saying it's sexier than vcenter
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    error: Error: Command failed: xenstore-read vm xenstore.Open error: open /proc/xen/xenbus: permission denied

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    It also happens when you run xo-server as non-root user.
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    Error importing vhd or VM

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    came across this topic.. i have exported a vm and trying to import it to another xcp. I had issues with the migration so i tried export and import and i have this error HTTP handler of vm.import undefined { "code": "IMPORT_ERROR_PREMATURE_EOF", "params": [], "url": "", "task": { "uuid": "efbc0249-0825-8465-5c4d-639609790062 ", "name_label": "[XO] VM import", "name_description": "", "allowed_operations": [], "current_operations": {}, "created": "20250121T22:23:40Z", "finished": "20250121T22:35:37Z", "status": "failure", "resident_on": "OpaqueRef:58799ebc-692a-4b39-a70c-fb97e63bcde7", "progress": 1, "type": "<none/>", "result": "", "error_info": [ "IMPORT_ERROR_PREMATURE_EOF" ], "other_config": { "object_creation": "complete" }, "subtask_of": "OpaqueRef:NULL", "subtasks": [], "backtrace": "(((process xapi)(filename lib/backtrace.ml)(line 210))((process xapi)(filename ocaml/xapi/import.ml)(line 2021))((process xapi)(filename ocaml/xapi/server_helpers.ml)(line 92)))" }, "pool_master": { "uuid": "700a5902-5b1d-49ec-a7c7-7be348163ff7", "name_label": "xcpbackup", "name_description": "Default install", "memory_overhead": 1160454144, "allowed_operations": [ "vm_migrate", "provision", "vm_resume", "evacuate", "vm_start" ], "current_operations": {}, "API_version_major": 2, "API_version_minor": 16, "API_version_vendor": "XenSource", "API_version_vendor_implementation": {}, "enabled": true, "software_version": { "product_version": "8.2.1", "product_version_text": "8.2", "product_version_text_short": "8.2", "platform_name": "XCP", "platform_version": "3.2.1", "product_brand": "XCP-ng", "build_number": "release/yangtze/master/58", "hostname": "localhost", "date": "2024-10-30", "dbv": "0.0.1", "xapi": "1.20", "xen": "4.13.5-9.45", "linux": "4.19.0+1", "xencenter_min": "2.16", "xencenter_max": "2.16", "network_backend": "openvswitch", "db_schema": "5.603" }, "other_config": { "agent_start_time": "1737493713.", "boot_time": "1737493639.", "iscsi_iqn": "iqn.2025-01.com.example:a784a28f" }, "capabilities": [ "xen-3.0-x86_64", "hvm-3.0-x86_32", "hvm-3.0-x86_32p", "hvm-3.0-x86_64", "" ], "cpu_configuration": {}, "sched_policy": "credit", "supported_bootloaders": [ "pygrub", "eliloader" ], "resident_VMs": [ "OpaqueRef:509e3b3e-4d43-452d-9225-6cbf2d0b9585 " ], "logging": {}, "PIFs": [ "OpaqueRef:d73acec0-8a55-4d47-a4ed-49472ca30f49 ", "OpaqueRef:cc001aea-f916-46af-ba42-d8b1c58e3cc3 ", "OpaqueRef:263afb14-5bba-4611-8bdc-898659169f3b " ], "suspend_image_sr": "OpaqueRef:NULL", "crash_dump_sr": "OpaqueRef:NULL", "crashdumps": [], "patches": [], "updates": [], "PBDs": [ "OpaqueRef:ed0b0406-bef6-4a40-8d64-238bef7af985 ", "OpaqueRef:94c58c56-e969-4d20-a890-0670509a7880 ", "OpaqueRef:4c7b2f97-ba37-476f-9d4d-bd54d73a60f6 ", "OpaqueRef:1e0af0c7-c567-491c-9be6-66a7fe8853b7 " ], "host_CPUs": [ "OpaqueRef:b51387c3-2a44-43dc-b56c-4d387e1abb42 ", "OpaqueRef:e72cc2ac-aa1a-4d39-bbff-bf2cddbe22a9 ", "OpaqueRef:11d9e571-e47a-4a2a-8426-00340c21ad9c ", "OpaqueRef:5f9d380b-3cd6-4166-885c-6b7cb80bebd1 ", "OpaqueRef:05ddf831-24d0-4f4c-947c-dfd9d8f333f5 ", "OpaqueRef:d6649684-128f-4d6f-b0d5-f28cbf0f2f47 ", "OpaqueRef:5b642435-ae8a-4547-b829-3cfba9c07da3 ", "OpaqueRef:8d3673c0-79ff-487a-a3f5-a7ab8c5998b4 ", "OpaqueRef:71534d89-5285-479a-ae63-66dea811a802 ", "OpaqueRef:4ec5fb6e-dac9-42d4-99c9-96144c72a4c4 ", "OpaqueRef:fcd181d8-7f5c-4585-b77a-bfe09de9e0be ", "OpaqueRef:6d29fc54-c0f7-4201-ae59-c5a173cee4fa ", "OpaqueRef:487834e7-cdb0-4e54-95ed-92655eff15ed ", "OpaqueRef:115458a5-4223-40ad-9a54-2fe0b3c05181 ", "OpaqueRef:e7df3acc-db7f-4635-8fc5-5167405db947 ", "OpaqueRef:747e9266-558b-44c0-855a-62936d004e56 " ], "cpu_info": { "cpu_count": "16", "socket_count": "1", "vendor": "AuthenticAMD", "speed": "3792.912", "modelname": "AMD Ryzen 7 5700G with Radeon Graphics", "family": "25", "model": "80", "stepping": "0", "flags": "fpu de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mca cmov pat clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc cpuid extd_apicid pni pclmulqdq ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movbe popcnt aes xsave avx f16c rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm cmp_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch bpext ibpb vmmcall fsgsbase bmi1 avx2 bmi2 erms rdseed adx clflushopt clwb sha_ni xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 clzero xsaveerptr arat vaes vpclmulqdq rdpid", "features_pv": "1789c3f5-f6f83203-2bd1cbf5-040001e3-00000007-218c0329-00400600-00000000-20001005-00000000-00000000-00000004-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000", "features_hvm": "178bfbff-f6f83203-2fd3fbff-040085f7-0000000f-219c07a9-0040060c-00000000-310ed005-00000000-00000000-00000004-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000", "features_hvm_host": "178bfbff-f6d83203-2e500800-040001f7-0000000f-219c07a9-0040060c-00000000-310ed005-00000000-00000000-00000004-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000", "features_pv_host": "1789c3f5-f6d83203-2a500800-040001e3-00000007-218c0329-00400600-00000000-20001005-00000000-00000000-00000004-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000-00000000" }, "hostname": "xcpbackup", "address": "192.168.200.7", "metrics": "OpaqueRef:339bb82d-61a2-4597-8cd2-42451863e251 ", "license_params": { "restrict_vswitch_controller": "false", "restrict_lab": "false", "restrict_stage": "false", "restrict_storagelink": "false", "restrict_storagelink_site_recovery": "false", "restrict_web_selfservice": "false", "restrict_web_selfservice_manager": "false", "restrict_hotfix_apply": "false", "restrict_export_resource_data": "false", "restrict_read_caching": "false", "restrict_cifs": "false", "restrict_health_check": "false", "restrict_xcm": "false", "restrict_vm_memory_introspection": "false", "restrict_batch_hotfix_apply": "false", "restrict_management_on_vlan": "false", "restrict_ws_proxy": "false", "restrict_vlan": "false", "restrict_qos": "false", "restrict_pool_attached_storage": "false", "restrict_netapp": "false", "restrict_equalogic": "false", "restrict_pooling": "false", "enable_xha": "true", "restrict_marathon": "false", "restrict_email_alerting": "false", "restrict_historical_performance": "false", "restrict_wlb": "false", "restrict_rbac": "false", "restrict_dmc": "false", "restrict_checkpoint": "false", "restrict_cpu_masking": "false", "restrict_connection": "false", "platform_filter": "false", "regular_nag_dialog": "false", "restrict_vmpr": "false", "restrict_vmss": "false", "restrict_intellicache": "false", "restrict_gpu": "false", "restrict_dr": "false", "restrict_vif_locking": "false", "restrict_storage_xen_motion": "false", "restrict_vgpu": "false", "restrict_integrated_gpu_passthrough": "false", "restrict_vss": "false", "restrict_guest_agent_auto_update": "false", "restrict_pci_device_for_auto_update": "false", "restrict_xen_motion": "false", "restrict_guest_ip_setting": "false", "restrict_ad": "false", "restrict_nested_virt": "false", "restrict_live_patching": "false", "restrict_set_vcpus_number_live": "false", "restrict_pvs_proxy": "false", "restrict_igmp_snooping": "false", "restrict_rpu": "false", "restrict_pool_size": "false", "restrict_cbt": "false", "restrict_usb_passthrough": "false", "restrict_network_sriov": "false", "restrict_corosync": "true", "restrict_zstd_export": "false", "restrict_pool_secret_rotation": "false" }, "ha_statefiles": [], "ha_network_peers": [], "blobs": {}, "tags": [], "external_auth_type": "", "external_auth_service_name": "", "external_auth_configuration": {}, "edition": "xcp-ng", "license_server": { "address": "localhost", "port": "27000" }, "bios_strings": { "bios-vendor": "American Megatrends Inc.", "bios-version": "2424", "system-manufacturer": "ASUS", "system-product-name": "System Product Name", "system-version": "System Version", "system-serial-number": "System Serial Number", "baseboard-manufacturer": "ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.", "baseboard-product-name": "PRIME A520M-A", "baseboard-version": "Rev X.0x", "baseboard-serial-number": "200975064800511", "oem-1": "Xen", "oem-2": "MS_VM_CERT/SHA1/bdbeb6e0a816d43fa6d3fe8aaef04c2bad9d3e3d", "oem-3": "Default string", "oem-4": "Default string", "oem-5": "DOLPHIN", "oem-6": "Default string", "oem-7": "Default string", "oem-8": "Default string", "oem-9": "Default string", "oem-10": "Default string", "hp-rombios": "" }, "power_on_mode": "", "power_on_config": {}, "local_cache_sr": "OpaqueRef:NULL", "chipset_info": { "iommu": "true" }, "PCIs": [ "OpaqueRef:e331e96d-25d0-4666-af9a-d66f613013ed ", "OpaqueRef:d53ccca2-932f-4981-9503-b51d7ee9d50b ", "OpaqueRef:ba20e488-e336-4b5f-b52d-66b6f63d59e0 ", "OpaqueRef:968c0ab8-3241-40c0-94ab-c632e0dfdf50 ", "OpaqueRef:7fe746b7-84cf-4540-93f1-de64469728db ", "OpaqueRef:75892aac-bc8b-4c02-b07d-b8f62d36c87e ", "OpaqueRef:61aeefda-e7d4-4b44-b6b7-43eac4d13bf6 ", "OpaqueRef:53537c6c-d240-4d23-bb77-39646f0cd71f ", "OpaqueRef:40f3f11b-b456-41af-96d3-f7d1ad70eab1 ", "OpaqueRef:1b7e67eb-ebd0-4460-8fea-4290926cd59f ", "OpaqueRef:1578400f-8d5c-4cb4-bd99-f913756b44ed ", "OpaqueRef:007e2815-d7a3-49cf-98d1-aef3c1cf029e " ], "PGPUs": [ "OpaqueRef:bf271c11-501f-467a-a9a7-74fe0be51aa5 " ], "PUSBs": [], "ssl_legacy": false, "guest_VCPUs_params": {}, "display": "enabled", "virtual_hardware_platform_versions": [ 0, 1, 2 ], "control_domain": "OpaqueRef:509e3b3e-4d43-452d-9225-6cbf2d0b9585 ", "updates_requiring_reboot": [], "features": [], "iscsi_iqn": "iqn.2025-01.com.example:a784a28f", "multipathing": false, "uefi_certificates": "", "certificates": [], "editions": [ "xcp-ng" ] }, "SR": { "uuid": "fbf160ab-cbfb-0504-6c7d-a159839c5bd4", "name_label": "16tb", "name_description": "", "allowed_operations": [ "vdi_enable_cbt", "vdi_list_changed_blocks", "unplug", "plug", "pbd_create", "vdi_disable_cbt", "update", "pbd_destroy", "vdi_resize", "vdi_clone", "vdi_data_destroy", "scan", "vdi_snapshot", "vdi_mirror", "vdi_create", "vdi_destroy", "vdi_set_on_boot" ], "current_operations": {}, "VDIs": [], "PBDs": [ "OpaqueRef:1e0af0c7-c567-491c-9be6-66a7fe8853b7 " ], "virtual_allocation": 0, "physical_utilisation": 2125824, "physical_size": 15873616670720, "type": "ext", "content_type": "user", "shared": false, "other_config": {}, "tags": [], "sm_config": { "devserial": "scsi-35000cca2c1e707a0" }, "blobs": {}, "local_cache_enabled": false, "introduced_by": "OpaqueRef:NULL", "clustered": false, "is_tools_sr": false }, "message": "IMPORT_ERROR_PREMATURE_EOF()", "name": "XapiError", "stack": "XapiError: IMPORT_ERROR_PREMATURE_EOF() at Function.wrap (file:///opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202501180626/packages/xen-api/_XapiError.mjs:16:12) at default (file:///opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202501180626/packages/xen-api/_getTaskResult.mjs:13:29) at Xapi._addRecordToCache (file:///opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202501180626/packages/xen-api/index.mjs:1068:24) at file:///opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202501180626/packages/xen-api/index.mjs:1102:14 at Array.forEach (<anonymous>) at Xapi._processEvents (file:///opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202501180626/packages/xen-api/index.mjs:1092:12) at Xapi._watchEvents (file:///opt/xo/xo-builds/xen-orchestra-202501180626/packages/xen-api/index.mjs:1265:14)" }
  • AlexanderKA

    Mirror failed

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    @olivierlambert said in Mirror failed: @AlexanderK said in Mirror failed: "OLD_447ff17a-82bc-4d49-a177-02f9086e9a04 That's the missing bit reported by XAPI/SM, indeed. Does this mean it is a bug?
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    Cant Boot Ubuntu 22.04 LTS after release update

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    @Meth0d thanks for sharing your experience. Fortunately I was able to just hit "Convert to HVM" after my imported PV failed to reboot after upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04 - was all set to load a livecd etc too!
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    Base Copy / VDI not merged

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    yep i know but i think it is much better to have 2 Ext SR each with 1 hdd than to have 1 SR with a raid with 2 hdd, regarding downtime in case of failure disk
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    "Xenserver 8" patching

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    snapshot with memory crashing debian VM

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    @manilx Just happened on our production Pools. Snapshotting Windows Server 2022 crashes our ERP VM! Opening official ticket referencing this thread.
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    Migration fails: VDI_COPY_FAILED(End_of_file)

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    @Danp I got around this by using Clonezilla to copy the disks of the 2 VMs I was having an issue with. This is very strange. The VMs booted and ran fine on the old host, I was able to clone them with Clonezilla to the new host where they also boot and run fine. There is something preventing the native tools from migrating these specific disks though.
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    Can .keeper files be deleted from the backup share?

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    @propsoft said in Can .keeper files be deleted from the backup share?: @florent Thank you. I just like things to be 'tidy' that's why I asked. Then stop looking at hidden files.... HA
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    XO Ansible Dynamic Inventory Plugin - Group Variables Support?

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    Many thanks @nathanael-h & @shinuza , both approaches indeed work!