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    Backup fails with "Body Timeout Error", "all targets have failed, step: writer.run()"

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    • acebmxerA Offline
      acebmxer @pierrebrunet
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      @pierrebrunet

      No worries,
      Mine seems to be intermittent and restarting that pools tool stack resolves the issue for now.

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        JB @acebmxer
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        @acebmxer

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        Exactly! I restarted the pools tool stack and made 3 backups. If I restart it again, I'll be able to make more backups.

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          GregBinSD
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          @jb
          You have hit on something that ties into what I have discovered. Since July 1, on my XCP-ng / XO-CE cluster, the metadata and xo-config backup job only runs successfully when I have all 3 hosts in my cluster active, and after I have reset the tool stack on the Master host.

          Because I am running the XCP-ng and XO-CE on an off-grid solar/battery system, independent of my electric bill, I try to limit total power to 250 watts for all devices (network switches, iSCSI NAS, XCP-ng hosts, etc). Consequently, I run only one host on a regular basis. When it is necessary to update XCP-ng, I turn on all hosts and do a rolling pool update. If I manually perform a metadata and xo-config backup while all of the hosts are on, only then will the backup be successful.

          Before July 1, the metadata and xo-config back was always successful, whether it was scheduled or manual.

          Hopefully, this will turn on a light bulb in the head of a Vates engineer, and he or she will solve this issue!

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          • olivierlambertO Offline
            olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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            Are you sure it really worked? Because we fixed something that swallowed the error before. Maybe it was successful while in fact not working. When you have some hosts down in a pool, you cannot safely export metadata because XAPI can't tell if the other hosts are dead, disconnected or simply stopped.

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            • acebmxerA Offline
              acebmxer @JB
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              @JB @gregbinsd @olivierlambert

              Yes restarting the tool stack works for me. I currently do not have any host offline at least not intentionally. If there is a network glitch that i am not aware of that might cause the issue if that is the actual cause.

              As @olivierlambert stated maybe we were having issues all along and they just changed something that is making the issue visible now. The support tunnel should still be open on my environment if you or the team want to look at logs.

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                GregBinSD
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                @jb
                @olivierlambert
                Oliver, you may be right, wondering whether they really worked. How can I prove that the metadata and xo-config backups were truly successful?

                Below, I pasted in the GUI backup log from XO5.

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                  JB
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                  All my hosts are online, yet the error still occurs. However, if I restart, the backup works for two or three runs.

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                  • bogikornelB Offline
                    bogikornel
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                    The problem is that my VM backups don't run either, because I still get a timeout. This morning out of 11 VM backups, 2 failed, on Tuesday 1 failed, 20 were good.

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                    • olivierlambertO Offline
                      olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                      5 minutes is clearly an HTTP timeout, the question is way we are reaching this timeout in the first place.

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                        pierrebrunet Vates 🪐 XO Team @bogikornel
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                        @bogikornel are you talking about another issue? We are on an issue specifically on "pool metadata backups". It seems you are talking about VM backups. If yes, can you send the backup log please?

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                        • bogikornelB Offline
                          bogikornel @pierrebrunet
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                          @pierrebrunet This is the same error, but it occurs more often when saving metadata. I'm attaching the logfile. xo-backup-error-log.txt

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                            CodeMercenary
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                            This happens to me mostly with non-config backups but occasionally a config backup will fail. The VM that fails the backup with the body timeout changes around every day, then once a week or so, every VM will get backed up. It only happens on this XO instance and only with the full backups. It doesn't happen on another XO instance that performs delta backups of the same VMs a couple hours later.
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                            • christopher-petzelC Offline
                              christopher-petzel @olivierlambert
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                              @olivierlambert I feel like the cause of the timeout is what I posted here: https://xcp-ng.org/forum/post/107454

                              The incidents of the errors in syslog correspond by matching pool, date and time to the incidents of errors in XO backup. I've traced through several of these incidents in the syslog and matched them to the errors in the XO metadata backup and matched these to missing metadata backup files in the directory on the storage server (ex. 20260807T041000Z) which is created even if the backup fails.

                              I would look in older logs to see if maybe this has been happening for a long time, possibly before an XO update now shows the error, but my syslog data only goes back 30 days. The XO metadata backup errors started over 30 days.

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                              • olivierlambertO Offline
                                olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                I have a theory that I'd like you to test on a specific branch. It might be an Undici bug, but I'm far from being sure.

                                You need Node >=22.19 to make it work. Switch to the branch named fix_undici_paused_parser_crash, build it and try again.

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                                  christopher-petzel @olivierlambert
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                                  @olivierlambert Good news. This morning, I built on the fix_undici_paused_parser_crash branch and manually ran the metadata backup job 10 times and did NOT get an error. Previously, running the job manually could result in the body timeout error, so we have progress.

                                  I will stay on this build during this week, let the scheduled metadata backups run, and report back by this Friday.

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                                    MajorP93 @christopher-petzel
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                                    @christopher-petzel Thank you for testing this! I am also interested in this fix since I encounter this issue from time to time. Unfortunately my testing environment / lab is currently unavailable which is why I wasn't able to compile & deploy this branch myself.

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                                      GregBinSD @christopher-petzel
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                                      @christopher-petzel
                                      Great news!
                                      I will test and report after it is available in a global update.
                                      Thank you Christopher.

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                                      • christopher-petzelC Offline
                                        christopher-petzel @olivierlambert
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                                        @olivierlambert No metadata backup errors in the 4 scheduled backups since Monday, while on the fix_undici_paused_parser_crash branch. Previously, I would not have more that 1 day without an error. Between manual and scheduled backup jobs, I've not been able to recreate the error on this test branch.

                                        This is good to see again...
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                                        • olivierlambertO Offline
                                          olivierlambert Vates 🪐 Co-Founder CEO
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                                          Excellent 🙂 so it was an undici bug after all… Now I'm making sure @Team-XO-Backend won't miss it 👍

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                                            JB @christopher-petzel
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                                            @christopher-petzel Unfortunately, for me, it still has an error.

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