@poddingue My three hosts are all EDT, drift on mine is pretty small because I have a local NTP server with GNSS. So it could be a timezone issue and might be worth looking into.

@ravenet well... thanks for the idea. I went ahead and tried spinning up an opensuse slowroll VM. I installed docker and the amdgpu firmware/kernel drivers, and tried running lemonade-server and ollama and same behavior. So that definitely seems to point to something weird going on on my host rather than the guest software stack...

Argh...Correction... 82 shows up as 82:01 and 82:02... lspci -vv -s 0000:82:01.0 82:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device e2f0 (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx- Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Bus: primary=82, secondary=83, subordinate=83, sec-latency=0 Memory behind bridge: f7c00000-f7dfffff Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 000001f800000000-0000020002ffffff Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR- BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR+ NoISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B- PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn- Capabilities: [40] Express (v2) Downstream Port (Slot-), MSI 00 DevCap: MaxPayload 256 bytes, PhantFunc 0 ExtTag+ RBE+ DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal+ Unsupported- RlxdOrd+ ExtTag+ PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop- MaxPayload 256 bytes, MaxReadReq 512 bytes DevSta: CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr- TransPend- LnkCap: Port #8, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L1, Exit Latency L0s <64ns, L1 <1us ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot- ASPMOptComp+ LnkCtl: ASPM Disabled; Disabled- CommClk- ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt- LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt- DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Not Supported, TimeoutDis-, LTR+, OBFF Not Supported ARIFwd+ DevCtl2: Completion Timeout: 50us to 50ms, TimeoutDis-, LTR-, OBFF Disabled ARIFwd+ LnkCtl2: Target Link Speed: 2.5GT/s, EnterCompliance- SpeedDis-, Selectable De-emphasis: -6dB Transmit Margin: Normal Operating Range, EnterModifiedCompliance- ComplianceSOS- Compliance De-emphasis: -6dB LnkSta2: Current De-emphasis Level: -6dB, EqualizationComplete-, EqualizationPhase1- EqualizationPhase2-, EqualizationPhase3-, LinkEqualizationRequest- Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 3 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+) Status: D0 NoSoftRst+ PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- Capabilities: [94] Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 0000 Capabilities: [100 v2] Advanced Error Reporting UESta: DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol- UEMsk: DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol- UESvrt: DLP+ SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP+ ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol- CESta: RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout- NonFatalErr- CEMsk: RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout- NonFatalErr+ AERCap: First Error Pointer: 00, GenCap- CGenEn- ChkCap- ChkEn- Capabilities: [220 v1] Access Control Services ACSCap: SrcValid+ TransBlk+ ReqRedir+ CmpltRedir+ UpstreamFwd+ EgressCtrl- DirectTrans+ ACSCtl: SrcValid+ TransBlk- ReqRedir+ CmpltRedir+ UpstreamFwd+ EgressCtrl- DirectTrans- Kernel driver in use: pcieport And 82:02... lspci -vv -s 0000:82:02.0 82:02.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device e2f1 (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx- Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes Bus: primary=82, secondary=84, subordinate=84, sec-latency=0 Memory behind bridge: f7e00000-f7efffff Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- <SERR- <PERR- BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR+ NoISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B- PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn- Capabilities: [40] Express (v2) Downstream Port (Slot-), MSI 00 DevCap: MaxPayload 256 bytes, PhantFunc 0 ExtTag+ RBE+ DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal+ Unsupported- RlxdOrd+ ExtTag+ PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop- MaxPayload 256 bytes, MaxReadReq 512 bytes DevSta: CorrErr+ UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq+ AuxPwr- TransPend- LnkCap: Port #8, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L1, Exit Latency L0s <64ns, L1 <1us ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot- ASPMOptComp+ LnkCtl: ASPM Disabled; Disabled- CommClk+ ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt- LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x1, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt- DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Not Supported, TimeoutDis-, LTR+, OBFF Not Supported ARIFwd+ DevCtl2: Completion Timeout: 50us to 50ms, TimeoutDis-, LTR-, OBFF Disabled ARIFwd- LnkCtl2: Target Link Speed: 2.5GT/s, EnterCompliance- SpeedDis-, Selectable De-emphasis: -6dB Transmit Margin: Normal Operating Range, EnterModifiedCompliance- ComplianceSOS- Compliance De-emphasis: -6dB LnkSta2: Current De-emphasis Level: -6dB, EqualizationComplete-, EqualizationPhase1- EqualizationPhase2-, EqualizationPhase3-, LinkEqualizationRequest- Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 3 Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+) Status: D0 NoSoftRst+ PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME- Capabilities: [94] Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 0000 Capabilities: [100 v2] Advanced Error Reporting UESta: DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol- UEMsk: DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol- UESvrt: DLP+ SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP+ ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol- CESta: RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout- NonFatalErr+ CEMsk: RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout- NonFatalErr+ AERCap: First Error Pointer: 00, GenCap- CGenEn- ChkCap- ChkEn- Capabilities: [220 v1] Access Control Services ACSCap: SrcValid+ TransBlk+ ReqRedir+ CmpltRedir+ UpstreamFwd+ EgressCtrl- DirectTrans+ ACSCtl: SrcValid+ TransBlk- ReqRedir+ CmpltRedir+ UpstreamFwd+ EgressCtrl- DirectTrans- Kernel driver in use: pcieport

The 2026-05-28 build still being good narrows the window a lot more than "sometime since November". What I keep coming back to is the shape of the failure: 14 out of 15, then 5 out of 6, so it is always exactly one that falls over and never the whole run. I don't know whether that points at a per-VM timeout or at something the last task in a run does differently, and someone on the XO team will read that better than me. @pierrebrunet still needs /var/log/xensource.log from the pool master covering one failed run's window, so even a slice from a job where only one VM failed should be enough.

@florent Sorry, missed your previous post. I will return to master and test it (over the weekend). Thank you!

Hi @simonp. The problem is gone with commit 44e5b!!! Up-to-date XCP-NG host and XenOrchestra VM were restarted after updating XenOrchestra. I just initiated a full backup and all VMs - including my problematic machine - were backed up successfully without error. Awesome! I will wait with closing until the scheduled delta backup is completed successfully, too. Thanks for all your work and assistance Regards, Marc

@olivierlambert said: I'm not sure it's a great idea, because even 64 hosts is huge in terms of VMs and fallout if you have a problem on your pool DB. Even if you drastically improve the current mechanism, the impact of a problem pool wide is far bigger with 64 hosts than 24 for example. It's more than purely tech, it's also a tech design/choice. Exactly, the failure domain just grows exponentially when going beyond a certain collective pool size. I was doing some more research and I found a few possible choices that Tesco may have moved too, but don't want to detract from this forum here.

So if i set VMs to Best-effort or disabled for HA i get not enough memory. @pkgw Do you have Twinstore configured and/or HA enabled? If no I will continue my issues at the twinstore post. If i set to restart i get this.... host.setMaintenanceMode { "id": "35233210-4e37-4703-9bf6-9e8a9c24df9f", "maintenance": true } { "code": "HA_OPERATION_WOULD_BREAK_FAILOVER_PLAN", "params": [], "call": { "duration": 5, "method": "host.disable", "params": [ "* session id *", "OpaqueRef:d9bd976f-445c-8244-1b56-879f446efc12" ] }, "message": "HA_OPERATION_WOULD_BREAK_FAILOVER_PLAN()", "name": "XapiError", "stack": "XapiError: HA_OPERATION_WOULD_BREAK_FAILOVER_PLAN() at XapiError.wrap (file:///opt/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/_XapiError.mjs:16:12) at file:///opt/xen-orchestra/packages/xen-api/transports/json-rpc.mjs:38:21 at runNextTicks (node:internal/process/task_queues:65:5) at processImmediate (node:internal/timers:472:9)" }

@laszlobortel Hehe yeah, those are pretty old kernels. I'd say there's a good chance kernel upgrades will go a long way to alleviating the CPU hangs. I can't say it's exclusively a problem with lvmohba storage, that's just what we use because of our previous VMware infrastructure was block storage over fiber channel. We knew a physical infra overhaul wasn't in the cards for us for this migration so we stayed with our existing storage system. This bug bit us half way through the migration until we figured out upgrading the kernel generally fixed it.

Indeed, it should be detected/reported correctly to avoid losing time finding the problem. Let me ping @julienXOVates

@Danp said: Smart Reboot option found on the host's Advanced tab does what you are asking Very nice!

Hardware update: Got a couple M9148 (4 port Matrox DP) and Wavlink WL-UG7500DH (4 port DP/HDMI) in to test. Configured a Win11 Pro VM with the Matrox driver. It broke the VM so severely that I had to re-pave. So, I pulled the card, swapped for a Wavlink and created another Win11 Pro VM - to which I assigned the Wavlink card and loaded their drivers. It works flawlessly. Both HDMI displays I had connected were instantly recognized in Device Manager and available. I then shut it down, created another VM with Mint 22.3 and assigned resources exactly per the Windows machine. Installed the Wavlink Ubuntu driver and DisplayLink. Rebooted. Still only see the XOA virtual (Console) screen regardless if I have the VM's VGA option turned on or not. The evdi driver is running as is the DisplayLink service. Looking at Xorg.0.log, I see EDID returns for the two HDMI monitors connected to the Wavlink card along with that from the virtual screen - but no screens other than the virtual one show in Display. Interesting bit: The GT730 card behaves EXACTLY the same way. Works great under Win11, driver initializes correctly in Mint but no display other than virtual. Going to post something on the DisplayLink support forum but find it odd that two different cards behave the same way in two different OSes.

@the_jest Not showen in this picutre but this is where the message would be displayed. Next to the name of the host... [image: 1782931263879-screenshot-2026-07-01-144023.png]

For your storage question, it's fully explained in the doc: https://docs.xcp-ng.org/storage/#-how-to-modify-an-existing-sr-connection And yes, it's planned to get the complete error visible in XO, sadly, it's not "obvious" since the error message isn't returned by XAPI when you try to start but by another method we need to call after it fails ("assert can be started here" from the top of my head). Let me ping @julienXOvates

@pierrebrunet ticket created https://help.vates.tech/#ticket/zoom/59723

@kagbasi-wgsdac , thank you so much for the issue creation and the details, that will help for sure!

OK so that resource was a pain and did not want to give up, so I restarted the host. Migration is running good now.

PRs upstream are in review